My SiL works in the insurance industry. She is not well insured for some reason. Tells horror stories about the infirm being denied and the process the claims people must go through to keep the infirm from getting services. Those who pay lots and have important people (lawyers, doctors, politicians) on the policy tend to get more procedures approved, but there is still a wrench that must be tossed in the machinery so it is slowed down.
Larry, is what you have the same as the Lorenzo's Oil kid had? clay On 11 Jan 2008, at 06:26, LarryT wrote: > Hi Dave, > I am disabled - have been for over 10 years with a disease not > many > people have ever heard of (Chronic Inflammatory Demylinating > Polyneuropathy - the mylin covering the nerves is being attacked by > antibodies in my blood) - in case you wanted to know. I've had all > kinds of > procedures, operations, ad every other kind of medical thingie > performed on > me during that time and not once did the several insurance > companies I had > deny or even slow down payment for something a doctor ordered. > Even when > changing carriers they always picked me up even with a pre-existing > condition. Maybe I've been lucky? > > IMHO, the number of appropriate procedures ordered where insurance > companies deny payment is pretty small. I think the media has > taken a few > and blown them out or proportion - which is what they always do. > > I know people have had horror stories where *payment for* > treatment was > denied - and the media was informed and news careers were made. > But when > that happens, the hospital has always been ready to make > arrangements for > payment - it might be $50/mo for life but the procedure can be done. > Usually the only procedures denied payment are experimental ones - > but the > line must be drawn somewhere. If something works in rats doesn't > mean it > will work in people. There's a difference between treating people > and > research. What if a experimental procedure kills someone? Is the > insurance > co partly responsible because it approved payment? Perhaps - the > legal > system is a tangled web. > > Have a nice weekend - we may have to agree to disagee. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot > > >> Unfortunately, a good percentage of the public cannot afford to pay >> for healthcare. Capitalism then says they don't get any. I would >> argue >> that system is not appropriate for providing healthcare. >> If you have ever had payment for a necessary medical procedure denied >> by a 'private industry' healthcare insurer, you know what I mean. >> >> -Dave Walton >> >> On Jan 11, 2008 7:26 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> You must be joking! >>> capitalism works when free to operate properly. supply & demand >>> always >>> works - prices >>> float to the level the public is willing to pay. >>> >>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >>> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >>> . >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:04 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot >>> >>> >>>> Sort of like the private sector? >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Everything the government decides to "Do" it screws up and it >>>>> ends up >>>>> being >>>>> filled with corruption and fraud. >>>>> >>>>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>>>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >>>>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >>>>> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >>>>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "WALTER WARREN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:39 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. >>>>>> His >>>>> opinion >>>>>> is valued by me and it is this :"Keep the politicians out of the >>>>>> ins. >>>>>> coverage business. We just had a major cost increase because >>>>>> the WA >>>>> State >>>>>> lawmakers deemed it necessary that mental health should be >>>>>> covered." >>>>>> URGH!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 4, 2008 7:34 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> archer wrote: >>>>>>>>> In your opinion, perhaps. In my opinion it's never too >>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> offer solutions for major problems that face America. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Its also a very political topic... something best reserved for >>>>> banned. >>>>>>>> Join up and I'm sure everyone will start talking about it >>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>> .............................................. >>>>>>> Just joined. >>>>>>> Thanks, John. >>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// >>>>>>> www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// >>>>>> www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/9/2008 >>>>>> 10:16 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// >>>>> www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: >>>> 1/9/2008 >>>> 10:16 AM >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: >> 1/11/2008 >> 10:19 AM >> > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
