Growing up we had a family doctor. He was a really nice guy. Lived in the same town, had his office in town, made house calls! We paid him for services rendered. He did not harrass those who could not pay, because his kids went to school with us, he grew up with the parents he treated. His folks knew our folks.
When he got signed up with the insurance companies, he lost many patients because they did not have insurance and could no longer use his services. In a few years he decided to close shop because he could no longer serve the community with a clear conscience. Too many procedures were being denied, and he no longer felt himself to be a doctor. clay On 11 Jan 2008, at 06:49, Loren Faeth wrote: > No, the problem is the LACK of capitalism in healthcare. Before > health insurance, healthcare costs were reasonable. That is why HSA > will work. If people can shop with their healthcare dollars, the > bloated administrations will die. > > The current system of third party payers provides the anonymity that > corruption loves, NO incentive for the consumer to shop (in many > cases it is prohibited) and with the government collusion, we have > $300 bandaids in place of $1000 toilet seats the government is famous > for. Ever look at what a hospital charges for a bandaid or an > aspirin ... Ohyeah, we can't have aspirin, because a designer drug > can be sold for much more! > > > At 07:44 AM 1/11/2008, you wrote: >> Unfortunately, a good percentage of the public cannot afford to pay >> for healthcare. Capitalism then says they don't get any. I would >> argue >> that system is not appropriate for providing healthcare. >> If you have ever had payment for a necessary medical procedure denied >> by a 'private industry' healthcare insurer, you know what I mean. >> >> -Dave Walton >> >> On Jan 11, 2008 7:26 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> You must be joking! >>> capitalism works when free to operate properly. supply & demand >>> always >>> works - prices >>> float to the level the public is willing to pay. >>> >>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >>> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >>> . >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:04 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot >>> >>> >>>> Sort of like the private sector? >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Everything the government decides to "Do" it screws up and it >>>>> ends up >>>>> being >>>>> filled with corruption and fraud. >>>>> >>>>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>>>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >>>>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >>>>> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >>>>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "WALTER WARREN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:39 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. >>>>>> His >>>>> opinion >>>>>> is valued by me and it is this :"Keep the politicians out of >>>>>> the ins. >>>>>> coverage business. We just had a major cost increase because >>>>>> the WA >>>>> State >>>>>> lawmakers deemed it necessary that mental health should be >>>>>> covered." >>>>>> URGH!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 4, 2008 7:34 PM, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> archer wrote: >>>>>>>>> In your opinion, perhaps. In my opinion it's never too >>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> offer solutions for major problems that face America. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Its also a very political topic... something best reserved for >>>>> banned. >>>>>>>> Join up and I'm sure everyone will start talking about it >>>>>>>> again. :) >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>> .............................................. >>>>>>> Just joined. >>>>>>> Thanks, John. >>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// >>>>>>> www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// >>>>>> www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: >>>>> 1/9/2008 >>>>>> 10:16 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// >>>>> www.buymbparts.com/ >>>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: >>>> 1/9/2008 >>>> 10:16 AM >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Loren Faeth > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com