Hi Tom,
All very good, valid points  - one thing - you said :<<is it the 
government's job to replace these
houses?>>  when we talk about the govt we are talking about ourselves.  I 
don;t feel I should
pay for those people to get back to their status quo -

But we don't get to choose what our taxes are spent on - unfortunately.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance


> John,
>
> There are some truly destitute people in our country through no fault of
> their own and no fault of their background, but this is a minority.
>
> It's my opinion that most of us are where we "want to be". Much of the 
> poor
> are where they are through past decisions, be it spending choices, 
> education
> choices, family background or life style choices. Many only know how to 
> make
> the choices they have made. And many seem to be stuck where they are due 
> to
> the choices they made.
>
> A great example of this is in New Orleans, were thousands were living in
> houses passed down by their relatives and were displaced by the hurricane.
> They lived all of their lives in "free housing" because the property was
> already paid for & now they can't afford to return. They are all whining
> because they can't afford to rebuild - they want the government to step in 
> &
> replace what was lost. But is it the government's job to replace these
> houses? Should they be allowed to continue living in free housing just
> because they were handed a free house by a long dead relative? To put 
> things
> in perspective - if I were to total my paid for 300SDL, should the
> government pay for the replacement just because I chose to buy only
> liability insurance? The answer is no!
>
> Anyone capable of working in this country has the ability to make his or 
> her
> life better but in our current "entitlement culture / mentality", it's
> easier to stop & let the government provide. I have no fundamental issue
> with a government provided healthcare solution other than it would
> contribute to the entitlement culture - a culture that is leading us down
> the wrong path!
>
> Some day when you are in town, we need to have a discussion about the 
> rolls
> we all place ourselves in.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of John Robbins
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:05 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
>> Sure, but if you are poor you have no credit.
>
> So then you only have "health insurance" if you are too poor to care
> about credit (and then if you try to move up from that you won't have
> credit for some time).  I imagine there are quite a few people who are
> in between dirt poor and "wealthy enough" to have health insurance for
> the whole family.  Those people are screwed.
>
> John
>
>
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