Ed, True, and the physics behind a track high side are exactly the same as the physics behind a street high side. On the street, an operator will panic brake, lock up the rear wheel, start to slide and then let go of the rear brake. Then the rear wheel grabs traction, throws the operator over and the bike follows. The results on the street can be ugly.
This is why I only use my front brake for stopping & I use my rear brake for holding on hills. By only using my front brake, I instinctively grab only the front brake in a panic stop. Then I apply some rear brake if I have time. I've compressed my front forks down at least 80% more than once with aggressive braking. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds Not uncommon to high side it through the sweepers on a track. Get the rear wheel spinning a little, and then it bits hard, and over you go. Guess it could be argued that any accident, whether on a bike or car, is always partially the fault of the one in control for not reading the conditions right. Just as with flying planes, I believe we, the ones at the controls are always the weakest link. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've not done that, yet. And BTW, high siding is always the riders fault. > It's caused by locking up the rear wheel in a panic stop. > > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of E M > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:49 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds > > Only thing worse is to high side it and have the bike following you down > the > road. :-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 10/02/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Speaking of accidents, there's nothing like sliding down the pavement > > behind > > your BMW motorcycle at 45 MPH. Fortunately, I was wearing full leathers > > and > > I rode the machine home. > > > > Oh, I still ride today and I still wear full riding gear even in the > > hottest > > months. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Bill R > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:47 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds > > > > Well, by this time I almost can't remember being without the > > 'reminders'. I > > once counted 14 sets of scars, but most have faded pretty well with time > - > > or been replaced with others. I really have no complaints. When I came > > to > > my senses two weeks later I spent a day or so feeling sorry for myself, > > the > > got hit with the thought of those who died, and of mom. Whenever we > faced > > some tough times I could remember her taking stock of things, then > saying, > > "Well, we'll get through this somehow." That pretty much kicked me out > of > > focusing on what I had lost and onto what came next. I learned to walk > > again, finished my degree, then graduate school and my post-graduate > > degree. > > I got married and love her more than ever after 32 years, and have four > > kids > > that I like and five grandchildren. I had a rewarding career that took > me > > to > > several countries. Kind of silly to complain about a few aches. As I > see > > it, everything after that wreck has been a bonus. > > Enough already, but thanks for asking. > > BillR > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: 2/10/08 7:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds > > > > Wow. Aside from the injuries I am sure you also have memories that are > > not pleasant. > > > > --R > > > > Bill R wrote: > > > Yes, though I have related it a year or so ago. I was a student at > > > Lynchburg College [great school, BTW] and was heading to DC in 1971 in > > my > > > '62 220Sb to visit an old roommate. I was going into an 'S' curve at > > 2:30 > > > AM in the pouring down rain. A Camero was coming out of the curve and > > all > > I > > > remember [for the next two weeks] is saying 'that car is going too > fast' > > .. > > > A trucker who saw the wreck in his mirrors said it was a Keystone Cop > > sort > > > of image with both cars going up and then smashing down. I would > > estimate > > > my speed at 50 when she hit me, and there were 14' of skid marks > behind > > my > > > car, none at all from hers, and she was going a good deal faster. My > car > > > stopped at the scene and hers took a bounce. At that time they did > not > > do > > > blood alcohol levels on corpses, but she was driving her boyfriends > car > > with > > > her brand new driver's license, and speeding in the rain at 2:30 AM on > a > > > curving 2 lane after leaving a party. She was either drunk or > terminally > > > stupid. My car did not have the lap belts installed [long story], > which > > > would have killed me from the angle of impact, but the flat MB > steering > > > wheel prevented any internal injuries. I think with a full modern > > restraint > > > and airbag system I would not have been seriously injured. The top of > > the > > > wheel hit me at tooth level and took all of them out as well as my > lower > > jaw > > > [they found and refitted 4 of 5 pieces and most all of the teeth], and > > also > > > caused a C-2/3 spinal break [C-2/3 controls the heart and breathing I > > think, > > > which is why I believe hitting at an angle with a lap belt would have > > been > > > worse than hitting straight on without one]. My right knee took out > an > > > add-on AC unit, cutting the knee almost through and sending my smashed > > femur > > > into daylight [well, not daylight at 2:30 AM]. Multiple compound > > fractures, > > > some closed ones, and cuts all over. I had an opportunity to see the > > car > > > three months later when I got out of the hospital and didn't recognize > > it > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: > 2/9/2008 > > 11:54 AM > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.0/1268 - Release Date: 2/9/2008 > 11:54 AM > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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