Loren wrote: <<Not to mention confiscatory taxes on
everything except breathing, but hold your breath, because breathing
will be taxed soon.  (Carbon tax)  >>

With the fiasco of gobal warming getting going just wait until you see what 
kinds of
restrictions are placed on you - the FedGovCo will be telling you what kids 
of Light Bulbs to buy of all things
ans as carbon credits get going you;ll see a few people with the ability to 
set up exchanges of carbon credits as
has happened in Europe where already a guy has become a multi-millionaire 
from setitng up the program.  All this for a program of a dubious nature.

When you look at all the clerks and bureaucrats on *your* back - and your 
small business - just imagine what is happening
at big corporations.  Hundreds, maybe thousands of people doing nothing but 
making sure the pyramid of regulations
are being followed - everythng from having the right signs posted in the 
right places to checking to insure the requirements of
the Americans with Disabilities Act are being met - even at places that will 
be unlikely to *ever* see a disabled person.  How about Braille signage at a 
shootig range or a school for High Speed Driving?  Makes sense, right?  You 
can bet your butt there's a requirement.

When I was in the corporate world we had a whole department (10-12 people) 
that just read the Federal Register daily to see how the new laws passed and 
legistalion being considered might affect the company -  all that effort and 
no ROI.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gave in... WAS: Must... resist... temptation


> China is not socialist..  It is a free market at the top.  They have
> a big problem trying to keep the hoards form not demanding their
> share.  The fat cats at the top want to keep the free market to
> themselves, and hoard all the goodies.  THey still talk socialism to
> the hoards as a way to contain them and keep them poor and ignorant.
>
> Do you think it is an accident that an eighth grader from a hundred
> years ago knows more than a college grad today?  The problem we have
> in the US, is that we are NOT a free market.  There are restrictions
> on free trade everywhere.  If you want to learn about relatively free
> trade, look at the period from 1870 to 1910 in the USA.  To run a
> small business that only grosses 60-80k a year, and is a net loss, I
> have to have no less than 5 licenses (State and Federal) and so many
> restrictive regulations I can't even begin to count them.  I am
> subject to random inspection by at least 3 federal agencies and at
> least 3 state agencies. Not to mention confiscatory taxes on
> everything except breathing, but hold your breath, because breathing
> will be taxed soon.  (Carbon tax)   We are a FAR cry from free trade
> in the USA.
>
> As for the fat cats in the US, many of the big corporations only
> exist because of regulation and favorable legislation.  In a true
> free enterprise system, they would die, because they can't move fast 
> enough.
>
> I stand by my prior statement: Free trade works, socialism doesn't
>
> At 05:10 AM 4/11/2008, you wrote:
>>Whilst on the surface free enterprise seems like a fine thing, when you
>>take into consideration monopolies and corruption it too can be a bad
>>thing, not too mention turning people into money hungry A holes.
>>Also not every socialist "experiment' has failed...........yet but does
>>need to be modified away from the doctrine set out by Marx and Engels,
>>think China. The problem I see with true socialism is that it goes
>>against human nature, whilst capitalism works well with human nature.
>>I do see the US as an odd mixture of pure capitalism mixed in with a bit
>>of national socialism/patriotism/racism and a few other ism's that
>>haven't even been thought up yet.
>>
>>Hendrik
>>
>>Loren Faeth wrote:
>> > Every socialist experiment has failed, before or after Karl Marx.  In
>> > the USA, we have had the french Icarian Society, failed in mid-1800s,
>> > the Amana colonies, disbanded/reformed (free enterprise) in
>> > 1930s.  Or you can look at the USSR, a shining example of a happy
>> > prosperous society, or how about how Jimmy Cawtuh forced Rhodesia to
>> > turn itself from a prosperous country into a socialist hellhole.  The
>> > list goes on and on....  but the premise existed long before
>> > Marx.  The Jamestown colony was founded 400 years ago as a socialist
>> > experiment.  After a good number of colonists died from lack of food
>> > and shelter, they reformed into a free enterprise society, and
>> > prospered.  GO figger.  Free enterprise works, socialism does
>> > not.  Now do y'all want Billary or Osama fer president?
>> >
>> > At 08:19 PM 4/10/2008, you wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Also, Socialism is a form of government that "refers to a group of
>> >> ideologies and political movements with the goal of a
>> socio-economic system
>> >> in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to 
>> >> control by
>> >> the community."
>> >>
>> >
>> > Loren Faeth
>> >
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