Hi Jim and List,

I will try to find the picture that you sent from the Franconia area. If I remember right, the meteorite was approximately 5-7 grams that basically looked like a small chondritic meteorite with a metal bleb (as seen in many of the early Franconia meteorites).

Since there has been so much talk about the various meteorite classifications that have come out of this Franconia/Yucca DCA I wonder if anyone has taken the time to compare the large metal blebs that are found in a lot of the early Franconia area meteorites to the H metal meteorite that Jim found (Yucca 015). A lot of the larger meteorites found on the North and South side several years ago displayed these features. I am sure some folks out there have slices off of some of the larger stones that display the large metal blebs/flakes. It would be interesting to see how the metal blebs compare to the H metal meteorites from the same area.

I also read about the terrestrial age dating on the meteorites from the DCA. What is the margin of error plus or minus on the terrestrial dating? I know there are various classifications of meteorites from this DCA I just wonder if Yucca 015 (just using this as an example) could have fallen as one of the early Franconia meteorites with the metal blebs but separated during the explosion over the strewnfield.

Sonny


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Sonny, this is YUCCA 015. I cant remember which picture I sentyou...been too long ago.http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57175JimOn Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM, <wahlpe...@aol.com> wrote:> Hi Jim,>> What was the weight of your new H-metal meteorite from the Franconia DCA?> Was this the meteorite that you sent me a picture of or a new one?>> Thanks,> Sonny> www.nevadameteorites.com>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Jim Wooddell <jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net>> To: Michael Mulgrew <mikest...@gmail.com>; Meteorite List> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 2:54 pm> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)>>> Michael,There is a lot that has not been learned from the Franconia> area.More information will be known in the future despite an award winning> comment from a member of the Drama Queen Dream Team that hunting in and> classifying 'crap' in DCA's is a waste, yet a new H-metal out of it....some> more pending...4 mile extension of the collection area....no...none of that> is a contribution...not to mention the work which was paid for INAA Testing,> EMPA, thin sectioning, grad student work...yea nothing contributed to> science! Certainly a discredit to everyone that made the effort at getting> anything anywhere classified. To those hunters my hat is off, with respect.> Its too bad the original DCAs in the area were made the way the were. The> new DCA makes way more sense for the time being.JimJim Wooddell -> MobileMichael Mulgrew <mikest...@gmail.com> wrote:>List,>>One more question> regarding the latest Franconia paper, M. Hutson et>al., 2013, regarding the> sample sized used in that study vs. their>concluded number of falls for the> area: They only looked at 14 rocks,>concluding that 7 were separate falls.> If they looked at 50 rocks,>would they have found 25 falls? Why did they> select only 14 rocks,>was it a matter of how much research they could fund?> I'd hope the>samples were not selected specifically for their appearance, as> they>stated in the paper that visual pairing based on the exterior of> the>stones was completely misleading.>>They incorrectly reported that the 14> stones in their study make up>3.7% of the total finds for the area, 380. We> all know this number is>much higher, by a factor of 20 or more probably.> For example, I know of>one hunter who made more than 600 finds in a single> year. A similar>disconnect exists with their statement regarding the %> representation of>total mass of all finds. I'm not sure how they can come> to such a>definitive fall count with such a miniscule sampling of finds from> the>area.>>Ok, two questions: Does anyone know why the irons (H-metal) from> the>area were ignored in this study? Surely they are directly related> to>these chondritic falls, and as Yucca> 015>(http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57175) shows us,>there> are multiple unique H-metals out there as well.>>Back to winning the lottery> to get all this sorted out!>Michael in so.> Cal.>______________________________________________>>Visit the Archives at> http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com>Meteorite-list mailing> list>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/ >> listinfo/meteorite-list______________________________________________Visi > t the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list> mailing> listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li > stinfo/meteorite-list> ______________________________________________>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com> Meteorite-list mailing list> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list-- Jim Wooddelljimwooddell@gmail.com928-247-2675________________________________ ______________Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li
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