You know, I have seen some pretty low and dirty shots on this list over the past few years but this is about the worst form of self promoting and "My meteorites are better than your meteorites" that I have ever seen. For new list members the pellisons have been several years trying to get people to pay outragous prices for their meteorites and try and convince people that they are the only legitimate dealers in the Sahara. Just desperately trying to find a way to convince people to overpay for their meteorites. I guess that since you came up with this ludicrous idea that poor business must have recently taken a turn for the worse. But use just a half retarded minimal grade four intelligence and think about what a potential terrorist would think if he actually did decide to raise money in eastern morocco. Would you choose meteorites where there is a close knit group of people worlwide wide and a lot of effort would be required to liquidate the stuff or choose fossils with a thousand times larger market and easier time to liquidate the goods (As well as get supply). There is certainly easier ways to raise millions of dollars than by trading in meteorites. But just look at where the money is going. A very large part of the proceeds of meteorites goes directly into the local economy. You can see where the money is going. Locals buy cars, build houses and such. One of the nomads that i work with is sending a grandaughter to a good school (Even though he cant read himself - he gets his grandaughter to count money for him because he cant do so himself as he never spent a day in school in his life). You would be hard pressed to go anywhere in the world and see a probuct so bennefiting the local population as what meteorites do to the finders and local population in the Sahara. Compare that to when the pellisons go search for meteorites by themselves in the desert, bypassing the local population, illegally exporting their meteorites from the sahara (Unlike the NWA sellers you dont see export permits on the pellison meteorites) and the only locals who benefit from pellison meteorites are bribes to local government officials and the state sponcered oil ompany (Assuming they dont bring their own fuel). There is a reason why meteorite dealers like myself, Erich Haiderer, farmer, Labbennes, Cottingham, Strope, Ivan and others are selling tens of thousnads of dollars worth of desert meteorites and the pellisons are stuck crying in their cheap imported wine complaining like a bunch of cranky old ladies unable to sell anything. Thats because these other dealers are supplying a good product at a reasonably price and give consumers a fair value for their dollar while the pellisons have spent the last few years somehow trying to convince consumers that going in and raping the land dry without leaving anything behind for the local population except police bribes that people should somehow pay 3 to 10 times for for similar rocks that they are selling. Maybe you can explain to everybody why it is not appropriate to hire locals to find meteorites (Or trilobites) for the world market like what goes on with NWA meetorites? Many of the NWA sellers unfortunately dont act in an adult manner on a rare occasion but it is mostly friendly competation and while I buy tons of NWA meteorites and might be able to make more money if I was the only buyer I am not a communist and see no reason why other dealers shouldent be dealing in desert meteorites either. I cant keep up with sales myself and couldent supply the entire (And rapidly expanding) world meteorite market if I was the only dealer anyway. When there is free competation pretty much everybody (Except the pellisons) are reasonably happy and can carry on a business that is legal and supportive of the local economy. But lets discuss the pellison meteorites now. I notice some DAGs on your website. Can you supply us with government documentation proving that those were properly exported from Libya? Of course you cant. Every NWA dealer could supply you with a legal Moroccan export permit though (That would make it extremily difficult for a government to come in the future and claim ownership of the rocks that you buy from them). Maybe you could explain to us all exactly what you did so that the Libyan government is allowing you to export meteorites from the country?. I note that Libya is on the United States and French list of terrorist sponcering nations. I wonder if you had to make some "Contribution" to the Ben Ladin cause in order to be allowed to hunt with impunity in Libya. You have been to terrorist sponcering Libya on a bunch of occasions. What were you doing in a terrorist sponcering country anyway? And what did you do to be able to export meteorites without getting arrested. One must seriously wonder how somebody who dont think twice about flaunting laws of the country that they are in operates and exactly what type of organizations they would be willing to support in order to reach their goals? So tell us how you get meteorites out of libya and which people who are part of the local population (Or in Afghanistan) benefits from your meteorite activities. We would love to know I am sure. Inquiring minds (Not to mention your potential customers) would like to know exactly what it is that you are up to in a terrorist sponcering nation (That americans are not even allowed to visit). Lets meet up in Tucson next week so that I can buy you some top of the line award winning Canadian wine so that you wont have to continue your enjoyment of the cheap imported camel piss that you can afford now. And next time you go to the desert wear a hat? To much sun is obviously getting to you. Sincerely DEAN PS: Dont think that I am trying to kick the pellisons out of the desert. I am not a communist and I believe that all my competators - including the pellisons, has just as much right to hunt in the desert and sell meteorites that I do. This is the stupidest most moronic thing that I have ever herd.
--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is lunacy, they are jerks who think that they > only should be in the desert. What a crock of BS. > Go back to France and take your attitude with you > Pellisons. > Meteorites funding terrorists, get real! They are > building homes with them, the Pellisons are just mad > that someone else gets some money from the > meteorites other than them. > Mike Farmer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stefan Ralew > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - > money for terrorism? > > > Hello Richard & Robert Pellison and List, > > beautiful concpiracy theory! But where are the > real facts? Thousands of deserts nomads in the > service of Al Qaida? I`m sorry, but this story ist > nonsense for me. It is fact that many nomads trade > her meteorites for food and other goods at markets > in Morocco. The Moroccan mineral dealers make the > real money. I know many of this mineral dealers > personally and these aren't terrorists! > > It is the same propaganda which is already used > against NWA meteorites. > > Best regards, > Stefan > > www.meteoriten.com > SR-Meteorite > I.M.C.A. Member#3368 > > > > > > > NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? > > http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html > > > > 1 - NWA meteorites are undocumented stones > "bought" in Morocco. > 2 - There is no potential prospecting field in > Morocco to supply this market. > 3 - More than 95% of the NWA meteorites come from > Algeria, Libya and up to Egypt. > 4 - The border between Morocco and Algeria has > officially been closed since 1994. Islamic army > groups cross the border. > NWA meteorites = > contraband meteorites > > Some serious facts: > - 2 of the 11 international terrorist > organizations which have been target of the Bush > government since September 11th live in Algeria: > - GIA (Armed Islamic Group) > - GSPC (Salafist Group for Preaching and > Combat) > - 30 Europeen hostages have been rescued from > Islamic groups by a military attack between the > Acfer and the Tanezrouf meteorite strewnfields in > 2003. > - Well organized smuggling rings act through the > militarized no man's land between the two countries. > > - NWA meteorite contraband is still financed by > private investors who prefer to stay "anonymous". > - The track of the millions of dollars involved in > this traffic is lost on the Algerian border. > > > More info : > http://www.saharamet.com/ > > Richard & Roland Pelisson > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
