List, This is not the shape of a tool made to hack, throw, push or pull. The shape of the "blade" and the location of mass is wrong. Further, a people that was short of iron would not have made an implement with a solid handle.
I suggest this is a bar scarffed to be joined by welding to a similarly scarffed bar to form a corner for some structural application. It might even be part of such a joint that has failed and has been cut away from reusable stock. The nickel test should be enlightening. - John John Kashuba Ontario, California -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Peter Scherff Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:38 PM To: cdtuc...@cox.net; 'meteoritelist' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID Hi Carl, When a meteorite is heated and worked any widmanstatten pattern is usually destroyed. So the lack of a pattern won’t prove anything. I am somewhat skeptical as to your objects origin. My skepticism arises out of the shape of the handle. From the photos the handle portion appears to have a round cross section. That makes me think that the object was forged from an iron rod. Thanks, Peter -----Original Message----- From: cdtuc...@cox.net [mailto:cdtuc...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:43 PM To: Peter Scherff; meteoritelist Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID Peter, I purchased this at an estate sale in Tucson and all the lady told me was that her late husband told her it was made of "meteor" and was a weapon from Egypt used for killing and not for kitchen use. ( good words to help sell? Maybe!) I deal in antiques so, I know there is always a story but the story does not always match the facts. I did try to acid etch the polished end and it dulls evenly except is small circles where it stays very shiny. No Widmanstatten or Newman lines. It still has a decent edge as well. I am being told that ASU has an AXE from Toluca so I am going to try and find a pic but I have not seen it yet. Thank you. Carl ---- Peter Scherff <petersche...@rcn.com> wrote: > Hi Carl, > The photos of the iron object you posted are interesting. Perhaps we > could give you more information if you could tell us why you think that the > object is prehistoric, why it is meteoritic and why it is an ax? > Thanks, > Peter Scherff > > -----Original Message----- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of > cdtuc...@cox.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:38 PM > To: Jack Schrader; meteoritelist > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > > Thank you Jack, > Does anyone have any photos of Toluca tools they could share? Any other > thoughts about Toluca as a sour se of this axe? If from Toluca would that > make this a possible Mayan or Aztec culture or would you simply say > Pre-Columbian artifact? Thank you. > > ---- Jack Schrader <schrad...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Carl. My guess would be that it is a Toluca or Xiquipilco meteorite. > > This meteorite is known by both names as it was discovered in the Toluca > > Valley of Xiquipilco Mexico in 1776. This meteoritic iron was well known > > to the early settlers in the area and they used the iron they found to make > > many of their common everyday tools. Nininger documented a number of tools > > made from this same iron when he visited the area and began collecting the > > meteorites from the locals. Best wishes, Jack > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "cdtuc...@cox.net" <cdtuc...@cox.net> > To: meteoritelist <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:21:33 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > > List, > Please forgive me. I had some old photos I forgot to delete. What I am > looking for is the correct age and culture of this antique Axe made of > meteorite iron. Thanks Carl > > > List, > > Can anyone help me identify the age and origin of this meteorite Iron Axe. > > Weighs 3.5 pounds. and is over 6 inches long. > > Thank you. > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030...@n07/?saved=1 > > > > Carl Esparza > > IMCA 5829 > > Meteoritemax > > ______________________________________________ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list