Pete, Those pictures with crust and flow lines were not related to this axe. They were shown by mistake. Sorry. Carl Esparza IMCA 5829
---- Pete Pete <rsvp...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Can we see again the pictures which you indicated a fusion crust and flow > lines? > > Cheers, > Pete > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:14:03 -0700 > > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; petersche...@rcn.com; > > mary.kash...@verizon.net > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > > > > Hi John , list, > > With all due respect, I recently added a few pictures which verify that > > IMHO this is A shape that is known in antiquity Meteoric iron of Naukratis > > Egypt C. BC400-400AD. Which is interesting because the lady was guessing > > that she recalled it was from Egypt but she could not remember for sure. > > This link was sent to me by Piper Hollier and as you can see it is a match > > to a hoe, of coarse a hand held AXE would not require both sides of the hoe > > as does the example pictured But is the shape correct? You be the judge! . > > see pictures again, The axe passed the nickel allergy test with flying > > colors. (mainly bright strawberry red). Thanks > > Carl > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030...@n07/?saved=1 > > > > > > > > .---- Kashuba wrote: > >> List, > >> > >> This is not the shape of a tool made to hack, throw, push or pull. The > >> shape of the "blade" and the location of mass is wrong. Further, a people > >> that was short of iron would not have made an implement with a solid > >> handle. > >> > >> I suggest this is a bar scarffed to be joined by welding to a similarly > >> scarffed bar to form a corner for some structural application. It might > >> even be part of such a joint that has failed and has been cut away from > >> reusable stock. > >> > >> The nickel test should be enlightening. > >> > >> - John > >> > >> John Kashuba > >> Ontario, California > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Peter > >> Scherff > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:38 PM > >> To: cdtuc...@cox.net; 'meteoritelist' > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > >> > >> Hi Carl, > >> When a meteorite is heated and worked any widmanstatten pattern is usually > >> destroyed. So the lack of a pattern won’t prove anything. > >> I am somewhat skeptical as to your objects origin. My skepticism arises > >> out of the shape of the handle. From the photos the handle portion appears > >> to have a round cross section. That makes me think that the object was > >> forged from an iron rod. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: cdtuc...@cox.net [mailto:cdtuc...@cox.net] > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:43 PM > >> To: Peter Scherff; meteoritelist > >> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > >> > >> Peter, > >> I purchased this at an estate sale in Tucson and all the lady told me was > >> that > >> her late husband told her it was made of "meteor" and was a weapon from > >> Egypt > >> used for killing and not for kitchen use. ( good words to help sell? > >> Maybe!) > >> I deal in antiques so, I know there is always a story but the story does > >> not > >> always match the facts. I did try to acid etch the polished end and it > >> dulls > >> evenly except is small circles where it stays very shiny. No Widmanstatten > >> or > >> Newman lines. It still has a decent edge as well. > >> I am being told that ASU has an AXE from Toluca so I am going to try and > >> find a > >> pic but I have not seen it yet. Thank you. > >> Carl > >> > >> ---- Peter Scherff wrote: > >>> Hi Carl, > >>> The photos of the iron object you posted are interesting. Perhaps we > >>> could give you more information if you could tell us why you think that > >>> the object is prehistoric, why it is meteoritic and why it is an ax? > >>> Thanks, > >>> Peter Scherff > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > >>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of > >>> cdtuc...@cox.net > >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:38 PM > >>> To: Jack Schrader; meteoritelist > >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > >>> > >>> Thank you Jack, > >>> Does anyone have any photos of Toluca tools they could share? Any other > >>> thoughts about Toluca as a sour se of this axe? If from Toluca would that > >>> make this a possible Mayan or Aztec culture or would you simply say > >>> Pre-Columbian artifact? Thank you. > >>> > >>> ---- Jack Schrader wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello Carl. My guess would be that it is a Toluca or Xiquipilco > >>>> meteorite. This meteorite is known by both names as it was discovered in > >>>> the Toluca Valley of Xiquipilco Mexico in 1776. This meteoritic iron was > >>>> well known to the early settlers in the area and they used the iron they > >>>> found to make many of their common everyday tools. Nininger documented a > >>>> number of tools made from this same iron when he visited the area and > >>>> began collecting the meteorites from the locals. Best wishes, Jack > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ---- > >>> From: "cdtuc...@cox.net" > >>> To: meteoritelist > >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:21:33 PM > >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Iron Meteorite Axe ID > >>> > >>> List, > >>> Please forgive me. I had some old photos I forgot to delete. What I am > >>> looking for is the correct age and culture of this antique Axe made of > >>> meteorite iron. Thanks Carl > >>> > >>>> List, > >>>> Can anyone help me identify the age and origin of this meteorite Iron > >>>> Axe. Weighs 3.5 pounds. and is over 6 inches long. > >>>> Thank you. > >>>> > >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/13030...@n07/?saved=1 > >>>> > >>>> Carl Esparza > >>>> IMCA 5829 > >>>> Meteoritemax > >>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > _________________________________________________________________ > One at a time or all at once? 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