Jeff,
Again with all due respect. 
You said;
"the owners get nothing and anybody who collects meteorites could be a 
criminal. "
I agree with Sonny, How about 20% but of the first find only? Then they can buy 
any amount they want after that. 
Remember they would not even let OUR " Meteorite men"  Photograph OUR Tucson 
Irons. Who are these guys and why are we letting our Gov get away with this 
crap? 
Does the name Rosa Parks or Martin Luther king mean anything?
I don't think We the people will stand for being pushed around by our 
Government much longer.
They can only push so hard until we are forced to push back. You only have to 
be 18 or over to vote. 
The Smithsonian got away with stealing the Tucson Irons but, that battle may 
not be over yet? 
In the mean time if we don't like something within our Government we can make 
changes. Including changing Government officials that lack brains and foresight 
. 
It has already been said a million times. Why let these things just rust away? 
That truly is a no win situation. Yes. I am pressing send now. Sorry.
Carl
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---- Jeff Grossman <jgross...@usgs.gov> wrote: 
> I just threw the number 50% out there because it seemed like a fair 
> compromise.  Trust me, collectors won't get such a deal from the federal 
> government on vertebrate fossils or cultural artifacts!  But in this 
> case, everybody wins if the owner (the federal govt, representing the 
> people) splits the specimens with individual finders.  Unlike the 
> fossils and artifacts, meteorites can be divided without losing their 
> major scientific value. Without a solution like this, everybody loses: 
> the owners get nothing and anybody who collects meteorites could be a 
> criminal.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 2010-03-10 3:19 PM, Greg Stanley wrote:
> > Now you're just being silly.
> >
> > I have a question to everyone who hunts Federal Lands:
> >
> > How many of you were FORCED... FORCED to give your meteorite(s) to the 
> > Smithsonian?
> >
> >
> > Greg S.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> >    
> >> From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
> >> To: almi...@localnet.com; altm...@meteorite-martin.de
> >> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:13:38 -0600
> >> CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened 
> >> toethics??
> >>
> >> No,
> >>
> >> But you will have to send half of the fish,
> >> if you catch any, to the Smithsonian...
> >>
> >>
> >> Sterling Webb
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From:
> >> To: "Martin Altmann"
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:12 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened
> >> toethics??
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Martin and all,
> >>
> >> Next thing you know they will be putting a stop to fishing in this
> >> country.
> >>
> >> --AL Mitterling
> >>
> >> Quoting Martin Altmann :
> >>
> >>      
> >>> No, where did I?
> >>>
> >>> Jason.
> >>>
> >>> I like history. I like the Bulletins, I like modern natural science. I
> >>> love
> >>> meteorites.
> >>> And, yes, I like my profession too,
> >>> a profession, nobody has to be ashamed of.
> >>>
> >>> These are the four reasons,
> >>> why I can't keep mum these years.
> >>>
> >>> Because I simply can't understand: Aren't they seeing, what they are
> >>> doing?
> >>>
> >>> If only a single one could explain me,
> >>> which the positive effects of the restrictive laws are or were
> >>> in Australia, in Canada, in China, in Oman, in Algeria, in Argentina,
> >>> in the
> >>> Philippines, in Denmark, in Sudan, in Libya, in Namibia, in South
> >>> Africa
> >>> (?), now in USA, in Poland, in Russia (?), in Switzerland..
> >>>
> >>> then I promise to be much quieter.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps you can help me with that?
> >>> So far I see only, that they risk all.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com]
> >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 01:05
> >>> An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list
> >>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what
> >>> happened
> >>> toethics??
> >>>
> >>> So, what you're saying, Martin, is that you advocate hunters lying
> >>> about where they find meteorites so that they can keep them.
> >>> Because that was his question.
> >>> ...Interesting.
> >>> Jason
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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