Hi Jeff, I think I speak for many when I say you are a voice of logic and reason amidst the chaos and bickering on this issue (including my own).
Hopefully the Meteoritical Society and IMCA will both be very vocal in defense of common sense on this issue - this is not a time to sit back, be silent, and let the bureaucrats bungle this up. Like Martin Altmann has so eloquently stated (many times) - the status quo prior to this new development was working better than most realize. Any tampering or further restrictions is going to hurt everyone involved, to the benefit of none. ----> If it isn't broken, don't fix it. <----- Best regards, MikeG On 3/10/10, Jeff Grossman <jgross...@usgs.gov> wrote: > I just threw the number 50% out there because it seemed like a fair > compromise. Trust me, collectors won't get such a deal from the federal > government on vertebrate fossils or cultural artifacts! But in this > case, everybody wins if the owner (the federal govt, representing the > people) splits the specimens with individual finders. Unlike the > fossils and artifacts, meteorites can be divided without losing their > major scientific value. Without a solution like this, everybody loses: > the owners get nothing and anybody who collects meteorites could be a > criminal. > > Jeff > > On 2010-03-10 3:19 PM, Greg Stanley wrote: >> Now you're just being silly. >> >> I have a question to everyone who hunts Federal Lands: >> >> How many of you were FORCED... FORCED to give your meteorite(s) to the >> Smithsonian? >> >> >> Greg S. >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> >>> From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net >>> To: almi...@localnet.com; altm...@meteorite-martin.de >>> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:13:38 -0600 >>> CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened >>> toethics?? >>> >>> No, >>> >>> But you will have to send half of the fish, >>> if you catch any, to the Smithsonian... >>> >>> >>> Sterling Webb >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: "Martin Altmann" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:12 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened >>> toethics?? >>> >>> >>> Hi Martin and all, >>> >>> Next thing you know they will be putting a stop to fishing in this >>> country. >>> >>> --AL Mitterling >>> >>> Quoting Martin Altmann : >>> >>> >>>> No, where did I? >>>> >>>> Jason. >>>> >>>> I like history. I like the Bulletins, I like modern natural science. I >>>> love >>>> meteorites. >>>> And, yes, I like my profession too, >>>> a profession, nobody has to be ashamed of. >>>> >>>> These are the four reasons, >>>> why I can't keep mum these years. >>>> >>>> Because I simply can't understand: Aren't they seeing, what they are >>>> doing? >>>> >>>> If only a single one could explain me, >>>> which the positive effects of the restrictive laws are or were >>>> in Australia, in Canada, in China, in Oman, in Algeria, in Argentina, >>>> in the >>>> Philippines, in Denmark, in Sudan, in Libya, in Namibia, in South >>>> Africa >>>> (?), now in USA, in Poland, in Russia (?), in Switzerland.. >>>> >>>> then I promise to be much quieter. >>>> >>>> Perhaps you can help me with that? >>>> So far I see only, that they risk all. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com] >>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 01:05 >>>> An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list >>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what >>>> happened >>>> toethics?? >>>> >>>> So, what you're saying, Martin, is that you advocate hunters lying >>>> about where they find meteorites so that they can keep them. >>>> Because that was his question. >>>> ...Interesting. >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ >> ______________________________________________ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > > > -- > Dr. Jeffrey N. 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