Facebook is irrelevant to this issue and thread. If you're truly
concerned about a thread on Facebook, why not ask me about it privately
rather than trying to divert this thread to what you want to talk about
Mike? That seem rather disingenuous to me. I'm sure others here too
think the same way.
If you want to talk about a thread you think I deleted, then please
elaborate to me privately. Or if you insist on doing this publicly,
please start a new thread and I'll be happy to go back and forth with
you on it.
Eric
On 4/12/2011 1:07 PM, meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Is that why you deleted the Facebook thread about Steve? So the fact could be
discussed or hidden?
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Meteorites USA<e...@meteoritesusa.com> wrote:
All this "negative" talk about the "negative" talk Adam, doesn't help either.
Doing nothing, accomplishes nothing. If we keep our mouths shut, the media
tramples us with non-facts, and the uninformed public will believe it.
We have a duty to the meteorite world to publish scientifically correct
information and rebuttals and to keep it truthful and factual.
Regards,
Eric
On 4/12/2011 12:57 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
I agree with what Rob said about changing the context even slightly.
I think it best to avoid all forms of media these days, good or bad. Grave talk
of land-owner swindles, smuggling, black markets, fraud and lawsuits we have
been exposed to lately in the press has already done an untold amount of
damage. It is unlikely that this avocation can survive much more of this.
The damage is real, accumulates over time and can't be done overnight.
Adam
----- Original Message ----
From: "Matson, Robert D."<robert.d.mat...@saic.com>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 12:40:15 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Darryl's edited NYT letter
Hi All,
The main problem with the Times' editing of Darryl's submission is that
they altered his factually correct letter into an inaccurate (or at
best,
misleading) one. The following sentences appeared in the Times' edited
version:
"As a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and others, 32
specimens from Mars and 43 specimens from the Moon have been discovered
in the deserts since the mid-1990s. The number of such specimens
recovered by scientists beforehand? Not one. Since the mid-1990s?
Just four."
Now compare this with what Darryl actually submitted:
" ... as a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and
others,
32 istinct specimens of Mars and 43 distinct specimens of the Moon, as
well as other exotic samples, have been discovered in the hot deserts
since the mid-1990s---all of which have undergone study. Conversely, not
one such specimen was recovered by scientists IN THESE REGIONS [emphasis
mine] before this time, and since then scientists have recovered only
four such specimens."
This significant error of omission invites researchers "in-the-know" to
accuse Darryl of being uninformed, and by inference unfairly calling
into question his credentials for opining on the subject. This is the
problem with journalists uneducated in scientific disciplines -- they
don't appreciate the nuances introduced by the seemingly harmless
removal of a word here, or a short phrase there. The sciences are not
like prose: every word is usually there for a reason.
--Rob
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