Walter, list,

Mr. Burke is right of course. But "All that is necessary for the desaster of evil is that good men do nothing" is right as well, in another perspective. And it isn't any kind of apeacement.

Darryl, like Anne you've done a pretty good job. They - NYT - do know now that they've got a neighbor who's (German saying) watching their fingers. So let's continue to confront them with our arguments as well as our silence. We've got the perfect teachers: meteorites. They don't.

Best as ever, friends,
Matthias


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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

-Edmund Burke

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All this "negative" talk about the "negative" talk Adam, doesn't help either.

Doing nothing, accomplishes nothing. If we keep our mouths shut, the media tramples us with non-facts, and the uninformed public will believe it.

We have a duty to the meteorite world to publish scientifically correct information and rebuttals and to keep it truthful and factual.

Regards,
Eric


On 4/12/2011 12:57 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:
I agree with what Rob said about changing the context even slightly.

I think it best to avoid all forms of media these days, good or bad. Grave talk of land-owner swindles, smuggling, black markets, fraud and lawsuits we have
been exposed to lately in the press has already done an untold amount of
damage. It is unlikely that this avocation can survive much more of this.

The damage is real, accumulates over time and can't be done overnight.

Adam






----- Original Message ----
From: "Matson, Robert D."<robert.d.mat...@saic.com>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 12:40:15 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Darryl's edited NYT letter

Hi All,

The main problem with the Times' editing of Darryl's submission is that
they altered his factually correct letter into an inaccurate (or at
best,
misleading) one. The following sentences appeared in the Times' edited
version:

"As a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and others, 32
specimens from Mars and 43 specimens from the Moon have been discovered
in the deserts since the mid-1990s. The number of such specimens
recovered by scientists beforehand? Not one. Since the mid-1990s?
Just four."

Now compare this with what Darryl actually submitted:

" ... as a result of the harvesting done by Bedouins, Berbers and
others,
32 istinct specimens of Mars and 43 distinct specimens of the Moon, as
well as other exotic samples, have been discovered in the hot deserts
since the mid-1990s---all of which have undergone study. Conversely, not
one such specimen was recovered by scientists IN THESE REGIONS [emphasis
mine] before this time, and since then scientists have recovered only
four such specimens."

This significant error of omission invites researchers "in-the-know" to
accuse Darryl of being uninformed, and by inference unfairly calling
into question his credentials for opining on the subject. This is the
problem with journalists uneducated in scientific disciplines -- they
don't appreciate the nuances introduced by the seemingly harmless
removal of a word here, or a short phrase there. The sciences are not
like prose: every word is usually there for a reason.

--Rob


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