It was my impression that Chrome is part of a larger effort by Google to
develop cloud computing based on Linux. I had heard, in fact, that
Google was polishing it's own Linux distro, based on Ubuntu, but tying
the user into their cloud services.  The Google Linux distro was
supposed to come out late in 2010, but don't set your watch by that.

 Although Safari is Unix based, it is proprietary software and they
might have had to buy a license to touch it.  By comparison, they could
download all the source code that they wanted for Firefox for free.

In early editions of chrome that I tried, it behaved suspiciously like
Firefox and one plug in or something that I downloaded for Firefox
worked in Chrome.

A Google Linux distro would finally push people like Lexmark into
developing a good set of Linux drivers.  The HP software for Linux works
better than the stuff they have for Windows, probably because all they
had to do was release a driver that CUPS could use, and not bundle the
driver with a lot of free but not GPL photo and printing software that
wasn't all that great in order to be sure the user would get value out
of the printer. 

 Sitting here at Ubuntu 9.10, it amazes me that anyone would use XP or
Vista over this.

  My daughter's boyfriend just got a laptop with Windows seven in it and
she says that it has a lot more features, but I have been using some of
the same features in Ubuntu for years.

I tried Kubuntu 9.10 last week and, although it downloaded a s--- load
of bug fixes, it is still over engineered.  I hear that Mark
Shuttleworth both told them where it's at on KDE 4 and provided a lot of
help to get it cleaned up.

Mark

I have no meaningful experience in Safari.  I downloaded it once and
looked at it and decided I wasn't motivated enough to learn and
configure a new browser. 

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 11:17 -0500, Sean O'Connor wrote:
> Actually chrome has no code from firefox as far as I am aware.  It
> uses the webkit rendering engine which comes from KHTML/Safari and
> otherwise all relatively original code.
> 
> 
> Google's motivations in the silent auto-updates are mainly security
> driven.  For most users, the web browser is the primary attack surface
> on their system.  Accordingly keeping it up to date is critical to
> keeping users systems secure.  For the majority of users, requiring
> user confirmation for an update is pointless at best since they don't
> have the ability to determine if an update is worth installing and
> dangerous at worse since some users will defer or deny the update and
> will end up with an insecure browser.
> 
> 
> Sure it would be nice if they added an option to prompt for updates or
> something which could be changed but it's a low priority for Google.
>  It's a feature which a very very small section of users want and
> which even fewer users would be able to use safely.  Additionally
> there's a viable solution for such users, just run chromium.
> 
> ____________________________
> Sean O'Connor
> http://seanoc.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Mark Wallace
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>         
>         On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:21 -0300, Orion Vianna wrote:
>         > While it would be nice to have the manual update option, I'm
>         happy I
>         > won't have to worry about old Crhome browsers rendering my
>         sites badly.
>         >
>         > Jim Hartley wrote:
>         > > There's lots of stuff you are not allowed to modify, hack
>         or otherwise
>         > > tinker, such as (Gasp! Shudder!) Windoze. I avoid
>         proprietary code as
>         > > much as I can, but sometimes the tradeoff makes it
>         worthwhile.
>         > >
>         > > But I really DO NOT LIKE automatic updates you can't turn
>         off! I tend
>         > > to stick with older, working versions of software,
>         autoupdates BREAK
>         > > things. I agree with you, I don't think I could accept
>         that, either.
>         > >
>         > > Jim Hartley
>         >
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>         It could well be that Chrome is a little less than polished,
>         they know
>         that a fair number of people aren't going to like it, and they
>         want to
>         make sure that you don't like the most upgraded version that
>         they have.
>         Although they started with Firefox code, they did a lot of
>         things to it
>         and some features work better than others.   I tried it and
>         went back to
>         Firefox, even though I get most of my features from Google.
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>         Newburgh, NY 12550-3802
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