OK - I was able to get the normal Windoze MBR back and can once again boot
to normal Windoze system. Breathing a small sigh of minor relief there,
though I really want to be done with this system if I can.... (My M$ system
has gotten so slow, I think the LiveCD startup is faster.)

I pulled my USB-based disk off the system and tried the Ubuntu disk again -
This time, the install sees only my SECOND disk (E: in Windows - never
worked out why it isn't D, but it isn't C: - which I think is where I want
things, yes? - that would be sda. I am seeing sdb) I did NOT continue.

I am booting the DVD, selecting "Install Ubuntu" from there - should I
maybe boot all the way up into LiveCD and run the "Install Ubuntu" from the
Unity link?

There is also an option for "Something Else" on the Installation Type page
- in this page, I DO see both (since the external is disconnected) disks.
Not completely sure what to do here though.

I may have to disconnect my additional internal drive as well to get this
the way I want. That seems silly.

JC


On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]>wrote:

> It isn't THAT old (386!!) - IIRC, it's an P5, and it runs the LiveCD just
> fine - so I believe Ubuntu should run on it once I get the disks worked out
> properly.
>
> Unfortunately though, it appears either work is blocking the appropriate
> Dell site, or it is down - so I can't confirm the hardware yet. Sigh. Once
> this long Solaris SAN migration completes, I can head home and do some REAL
> work - instead of this stuff I get paid for. (Which, I might add, is
> supposed to include RHEL, at which I pretty much suck, so it is kind of
> embarrassing that I need to ask all this in the first place. Sigh.)
>
> JC
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Mark Wallace <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  If your system is that old, you might find your best desktop to be
>> LXDE.  Lubuntu is a good distro of it.  It's a little rough cut but it runs
>> like the wind.  The system that I am using originally had XP service pack
>> one in it.  If you get kernel panic when you try to boot up, it's because
>> your old system is a 386 processor.  If you want another desktop, put
>> Lubuntu in it if  you have trouble and then use the synaptic package
>> manager to get KDE or Xubuntu into it.  If you pick KDE, disable the
>> desktop effects because chances are your system can't handle them.  If it
>> keeps coming off like you have a bad install, with your task bar
>> disappearing, etc, or it hangs, then your system can't handle distros
>> designed for a 686.  The only Ubuntu distro that will  work with an old
>> system is Lubuntu.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12-11-09 10:10 PM, Jack Chastain wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all - I think Chris may have the correct analysis. This
>> third-shift work makes it miserable for me to try anything in a reasonable
>> frame, but I will give this a shot soon.
>>
>> I believe based on the way things were installed that Chris is reading it
>> right - I don't understand why the external USB-based disk was the only one
>> I was offered (I tried a few times to insure I didn't have a list of three
>> drives - I did not, however, with the system up, fdisk clearly sees the
>> other drives) but there you go.
>>
>> My impression is that - for some reason - Ubuntu installed itself to the
>> drive that is not available until the drives for that drive  are made
>> available - after boot. Live and learn. Or not.
>>
>> The system si a quite old Dell - I think it is maybe going on 10 years
>> now - and last night, I just got tired of the gradual and continual
>> slowdown of the system. I figured the only thing it really has is Visio, so
>> I would replace the (even older?) laptop and see if I couldn't squeak out a
>> little more performance. Silly me.
>>
>> Unfortunately, now I am at work in White Plains and won't be home until
>> about 0600 - I guess I will get to play then. For now, off to do some
>> reading.
>>
>> JC
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Chris Knadle 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  On Friday, November 09, 2012 05:30:24 PM Matthias Johnson wrote:
>>> > Chris,
>>> >
>>> > You may be correct but if the internal drive wasnt mountable how would
>>> it
>>> > install anything to it?
>>> >
>>> > Matthias
>>>
>>>  When Grub2 installs the boot sector portion of the boot loader into
>>> the MBR,
>>> it does that on the raw device (such as /dev/sda), not a filesystem.
>>>  When it
>>> installs the /rest/ of Grub2 -- the configuration, modules, etc --
>>> that's done
>>> on a mounted filesystem.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>   -- Chris
>>>
>>> Chris Knadle
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