" ... I can't even FIND a set of install instructions! I found that by
using a search function a few times on the Ubuntu pages. Weird. Thanks for
pointing that out! Also for providing the direct link - Kind of curious
where that came from, as a "casual" walk through the links in the
documentation page does not immediately appear to have a direct reference."

Ah - I see it now - it's not all that obvious that one has to start in the
Community Contributed Documentation for that bit - but if I devote a
moment's thought to it, it makes sense.

JC


On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Jack Chastain <[email protected]>wrote:

> Lots of replies!
>
> *Al: *I need to not loose the Windoze system - at least not yet. If
> that's what you meant, it has to remain useable for the moment. I Did get
> it back though - so if you are asking if I need help recovering it, I am OK
> there. Using it now for this in fact.
>
> *Allen:* Fedora Live CD - very good thought. I will pull that down and
> make one tonight. Also the thoughts regarding RHEL are well received - and
> very sensible. Have to consider that - but my recent focus has been around
> Ubuntu and I probably will stick with that. There is no over-riding reason
> I have to though.... I am really supposed to be better at RHEL though (for
> work) and have been slacking there. I think your suggestion to load it (or
> at least the personal edition) makes a lot of sense.
>
> *Sean:* "I'd actually suggest going with the x86_64 version of it" Huh. I
> didn't notice that. PowerPC pages. No wonder that appeared a lot and seemed
> slightly out of context - given that I had assumed the context in the first
> place. Interesting - I go back and manually walk through the documentation
> - and I can't even FIND a set of install instructions! I found that by
> using a search function a few times on the Ubuntu pages. Weird. Thanks for
> pointing that out! Also for providing the direct link - Kind of curious
> where that came from, as a "casual" walk through the links in the
> documentation page does not immediately appear to have a direct reference.
> Ima go read that now ;-)
>
> *Mark:* It's a 32-bit P4 (I said P5 before, then got home and checked).
> There is a 64-bit system in the house, but my son has it ;-) I get
> relegated to the crappy old stuff. To be honest though, my wife keeps
> telling me I need New Stuff - I just haven't gotten around to picking out
> something reasonable.
>
> *Chris:* Got your phone number, am going through your details and we'll
> see how it goes tonight/this morning. I am off work at or around 0900
> Sunday, don't have to work again until 2300 Wednesday. If I don't get
> anywhere with this, and you have the time, your experience would be greatly
> appreciated! We will have to see how things progress. This is not urgent
> and can wait if necessary - hope your GF is better and you can get your
> parents back up and online with no issues.
>
> Thanks everyone! I WILL get this - I'm not that focused on it up till now
> though and all the suggestions are a BIG help!
>
> JC
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Chris Knadle 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hey, Jack.
>>
>> You mentioned that this is an i386 system (P5) -- and I recall Joe running
>> into a problem with the kernel on the standard Ubuntu version, and he
>> used the
>> "alternate" install image which got around that problem.  You might give
>> that
>> a try and see what happens.  Make sure to get the i386 version of course.
>>  ;-)
>>
>>    http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
>>
>> In theory it shouldn't matter whether you try to do the Install
>> immediately or
>> whether you boot up to a Desktop on the LiveCD and install from there,
>> because
>> in /theory/ the kernel should be the same and thus recognize the same
>> hardware.  However I find it /really/ odd that Ubuntu is finding the
>> /second/
>> hard disk, but not the /first/ one.  That tells me something weird is
>> going
>> on.
>>
>> Since this is an i386 system I'm assuming you're using IDE hardware, with
>> Master/Slave/SingleMode/CableSelect jumper options.  Dell usually ships
>> drives
>> on CableSelect by default, and I've occasonally found that problematic.
>>  If
>> the first drive is on a cable with something else, try setting the drive
>> to
>> Master and the other device to Slave; if it's by itself set it to "Single
>> Mode", which is usually the same as Master but not always.  Then try
>> booting
>> up the Ubuntu install again and see if the drive gets recognized then.
>> [Admittedly this is a real long shot since you already had Ubuntu running
>> on
>> the system, but I'm including this anyway in case it helps.]
>>
>> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 09:17:02, Jack Chastain wrote:
>> > I think this
>> > page<
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/powerpc/non-debian-p
>> > artitioning.html>holds the secrets I need to discover. Hey Chris - you
>> free
>> > on Sunday if  this doesn't go well? ;-)
>>
>> I'd certainly enjoy the company if I'm available.  The router at my
>> parents'
>> house crapped during hurricane Sandy; the router was on a UPS, but then
>> generator power was applied which made the UPS continuously flip between
>> line/backup, and I think the CF card got corrupted during that.  It
>> booted up
>> once and sent me a status email, but wouldn't route packets and I
>> couldn't ssh
>> into it.  :-(  No status email on any successive reboot.
>>
>> I haven't had a chance to go out there yet because of bridge
>> restrictions, gas
>> shortages, and my GF getting pneumonia and spending a week in the
>> hospital.
>> Long Island is now on gas rationing but it is helping the shortages some,
>> and
>> everything else is (mostly) over with, so I'm hoping to take a trip out
>> there
>> to try to fix things.
>>
>> I'll send you an email with my phone # so you can call me on Sunday
>> regardless.  If nothing else I should be able to help you out that way;
>> and if
>> by chance I'm still around maybe I'll get a chance to help you out in
>> person.
>> ;-)
>>
>> And I'm looking forward to seeing everybody again at an MHVLUG meeting
>> when I
>> can make it.
>>
>>   -- Chris
>>
>> --
>> Chris Knadle
>> [email protected]
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