Chris re: untangled
>
> First, last I looked at it, it's based on a version of Debian that's out of
> support ... it looks like there was some work put
> towards updating the OS to a newer version of Debian, but was halted.


That's a bummer.

Matt re: alternatives

> I use pfsense personally for firewall/proxy filter.  Based on freeBSD and
> has lots of packages to add on like freeRADIUS, Squid Proxy, CARP multi
> WAN, openvpn.


 FreeBSD gives me the jibbilies...   0.o

But as I take a look around (googling "pfsense vs untangled" and "pfsense
vs clearos") It seems that there are a couple things people agree on:

   - untangled is bloated
   - ClearOS has too much eye candy
   - untangled requires more Hardware resources
   - A bunch of ClearOS users jumped ship to pfsense (and are now
   satisfied) after a recent release.

I'm okay sacrificing a *some* resources for good looks, but pfsense only *
suggests* <512MB RAM for some isolated use cases.  That sounds pretty
efficient to me.  So, I'm going to bite the bullet and give pfSense a try.
 (pfsense.org)  My current FreeNas based on FreeBSD has been OK to deal
with so, I think I've got a fighting chance.

Cheers,

Al


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Chris Knadle <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:08:39 Alan Jachimiak wrote:
> > Super input!
> >
> > Since nobody is showin' the love for Microtik, I just pulled the trigger
> on
> > the $20 D-Link Dir 615.  I will install dd-wrt on it and have a go.
> >
> > For the rest of the functionality it Looks like I'm going to need
> something
> > a bit more powerful.   I have two NIC's on my main server at home which
> is
> > a virtualization platform.  I'll make a new VM with two NIC's and then
> > install a router-like OS on it that will give me some of the
> functionality
> > I'm looking for.  And since each is already a linux distro, I could crawl
> > in there and do what I want if it hasn't been done already.
> >
> > I've looked at
> > ClearOS<http://www.clearfoundation.com/Software/downloads.html>and
> > Untangled <http://www.untangle.com/store/get-untangle/>.  Both look
> nice,
> > but a brief bout of research shows that untangled has more functionality
> > out of the box.
> >
> > FYI ClearOS seems to be built on top of CentOS and Untangled built on top
> > of Debian ("Lenny").  If you've had experience with either of these, I'd
> > love to hear about it.
>
> I've tried "Untangled" and found it to be a tangled mess.
>
> First, last I looked at it, it's based on a version of Debian that's out of
> support, meaning the base OS doesn't get security updates.  Their Debian
> repositories are password protected, but IIRC the password for getting in
> can
> be seen by examining the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ after
> installation.
> When you look into their repositories it looks like there was some work put
> towards updating the OS to a newer version of Debian, but was halted.
>
> AFAICT there's no good reason to run Untangled because you can get all of
> the
> free stuff by running Debian (which is more up to date), and everything
> else
> seems to require a pricy monthly fee.  Also, Untangled _requires_ being
> installed on a hard disk, and cannot be run on a CF card -- the
> installation
> is 20 GB minimum, and the installation is automated which wipes the entire
> disk and gives you no options to partition the disk manually, even though
> Debian does.
>
> Go ahead and try it for yourself to see, but I make you a bet you come to
> the
> same conclusion that I did -- that there's not much to like in Untangled.
>  If
> you install it into a VM (which is how I tested it), make sure the VM has
> _two_ NIC devices, otherwise Untangled will refuse to install.
>
> I haven't yet tried ClearOS -- this is the first I've heard of it.
>
>   -- Chris
>
> --
> Chris Knadle
> [email protected]
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