I know that Lotus Development, until just recently, had domestic and
international versions of their Lotus Notes/Domino groupware/messaging
system software.  The domestic version had 64 (or perhaps 128; I do not
recall exactly) bit encryption; the international had 56 bit, but I know
they did a key-escrow on 16 bits, so the effective encryption was down to
40-bit (ie, the same as Microsoft and Netscape).

They too, now have only one version (well, one with two subtypes, because
of French and Iraqi restrictions on encryption software), and I think it
is the 64 (or 128-bit) version. 

As an aside, the British now have a law that requires users to turn over
encryption keys and passwords for encryption keys on demand by the British
government, so the size of the key really is immaterial in the UK.

jeh

On Sat, 16 Sep 2000, Jon Barker wrote:

> Hello Roger
> 
> On 16-Sep-00, you wrote:
> 
> > Hello Michael
> 
> > On 16-Sep-00, you wrote:
> 
> >>> The real difference is that the international version
> >>> makes 72 bits of the decryption key available in the
> >>> header, effectively reducing the encryption level to
> >>> 56 bits. Didn't anyone ever told you that?
> >> 
> >> I've never heard of that with Miami.  Are you sure you're
> >> not confusing Miami with how IE and Netscape do it ???
> 
> > Well, I don't think Netscape and Microsoft did that unless they were
> > forced to do it by US authorities, due to legal reasons. Why would they
> > cripple their products, unless they previously were forced to do it. As
> > soon as the US Laws were changed, Microsoft immediately issued the full
> > 128-bit high encryption worldwide. Thus, I don't expect Miami would be
> > different. Do have any facts contradicting this to convince me with?
> 
>     Have a good read of Holgers SSL guide, there's plenty of info there. 
> DES is 56bit, triple DES is 168bit.  MAC is 1024bit or 512bit.  You need to
> know what encryption, and why it is used for what purpose.  Read the guide,
> and also learn about public and private keys, also Amiga's have always been
> able to do 128bit,
> 
> Regards
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