Hello Fred
On 19-Feb-01, you wrote:
>>> I can't remember the specifics, but you may need to play with the unit
>>> number (0 or 1), as one of them is, by default, used for server
>>> functions, the other for client.
> If you don't want to use servers at all, just edit telserd.conf and
> comment out the lines that aren't already comments.
OK, where would I put this? I do have Genesis off of the OS 3.9 CD
installed and it assigns itself as AmiTCP:
>> > I haven't used Termite, or even seen it, so I don't know anything
>> > about that program, but I've used telser.device with Term. It works
>> > rather nicely, as well as being the best terminal program I've used on
>> > any computer platform (though fiddly to customise).
> VLT+telser was my favorite Telnet client before MiamiTelnet came along.
> It still has certain aspects that are better than MiamiTelnet, though I
> mostly use MiamTelnet these days.
I have not played with VLT. Termite was a commercial terminal program from
the now dead Oregon regearch. Termite works pretty good for me. I couldn't
say the same for thier TermiteTCP. (My first "working" TCP stack.)
TermiteTCP was the program that prompted me to get Miami.
> There's not really too much that you *have* to set up, and it's pretty
> well documented. The main issue in using it with Miami is that it expects
> AmiTCP: and some of its subdirectories to exist. Some people map AmiTCP:
> to Miami:, but I personally prefer to keep them separate.
Since I had recently installed Genesis and I noticed later that it assigned
itself as AmiTCP, it may work sing it also has some of the directories
there as well.
>> I can try just putting the telser.device in DEVS: and seeing if it will
>> run without hassle, but I'm worried about all the different thins I'm
>> supposed to set up. (Like all the db directory files, ect...)
> It needs those, but the installer should store the files as supplied, and
> with a few tweaks it should be usable.
I'll see if I can put this in. This would open up different options for
telnetting. Now all I need is a decent ANSI font.
>> If I get the BBS setup, I understand that a lot do use the
>> telser.device. So I'll need to know what I'd need for that as well.
> Yes, that's quite a bit more complicated, and there are security issues.
> If you decide to get MiamiDx, look into MiamiTelnetD as well.
I'll do so. But the BBS is a while away. Why a BBS? Well, to some people
they are actually a new thing now. Most kids didn't realize we had
something before the Internet was really big. I also liked some of the
games, ect.
(SNIP)
I was forced to register AmTelnet due to a problem our club prez was
having with his ISP.
He is a rabidly fanitical C64/128 user, that doesn't gripe about the
Amiga (much.)
He logs on via a direct-dial Unix shell that our ISP has provided along
side the PPP/SLIP access. One day things were working and the the next...
For several weeks he kept on getting Host Unavailable errors when he tried
to log on. That was eventually fixed (after lots of complaints from us.)
He was on for a few days, using Pine (his normal email client on the ISP,)
to try to sort through the horde of email on his system. One day Pine
started to lock up on loading.
We tried to use the telnet client with Wave64 (The new C64 Webbrowser that
requires the GEOS upgrade, Wheel and the SuperCPU accelerator.) The problem
with that is:
1) The faked 80-column screen is a pain to read
2) It would still lock up most of the time.
He is fixing this by ordering Wheels128 (Since he just picked up GEOS 128,)
and with the 80-column screens, that part would be fixed. The Wave is a
free download right now and still not 100% finished yet. But what works,
works very well.
We tried using Termite to access his account, (and I tried accessing mine
as well,) problem was duplicated. (It freezes up at some point between
opening up Pine or opening up your folder list or Inbox.)
I tried AmTelnet and with a straight telnet connection, I was also able to
duplicate this problem. The interesting thing is that this problem does not
appear when I try connecting using the SSH. I have no idea why this is so,
but the SSH does something to get around the problem.
Another thing to point out is this problem only seems to happen with pine.
Yes he does use Pine to handle newsgroups, but there nothing in the .pinerc
(IIRC,) file that sets up newsgroups. (We were told to check the Pine
config file and it was clean.)
Now we complain to the ISP and we're getting responses like, "We don't give
support for shell access.", "We don't support your platform.", or "It's
your software's fault." His system has not changed and hasbeen running
pretty stable. He has a 14.4k USR Sportster FAX Modem running off od a
Swiftlink RS232 Cartridge. he also has the SuperCPU up and running as well.
This has worked very well for him in the past. that and the fact that I
could duplicate this problem on the A4000 had shown that there was a
problem.
Well, right now he's working on getting a special telnet account from a
Commodore friendly site in Austrailia. (http://videocam.net.au). I have
been able to locate his Inbox and I can grab all of his Pine folders. I
have made a backup already of his Home directory as well as the Inbox. (It
was close to 6MB in size due to the fact he couldn't do his regular clean
up.) He has to use the Amiga to handle his email. The fun fact is he now
nows what I go through when I jump between the systems. (A lot of the
punctucation keys are on different keys.)
I had this ISP since it's shell access was a backup incase my A4000 blew
up. Now i think I'm gonna hunt for a new one. (How to I get my email
forewarded until I can get the notice of of the address change???)
Another thing that this brings to light is a for of discrimination that is
getting worse every year. Not of race or religion (well maybe some
arguements on this,) but of computer platform. I'm not saying they have to
provide the terminal software, but there should be some sort of "low tech"
access. This could even be benificial if the goverment wants to push
getting some sort of internet to the masses. A relitively cheap terminal
could easilly access a shell account. The only thing would be to get people
to make sites that were more accesable to lynx users. They can keep the
fancified flash, ect. crapola. But a low tech browser access should be made
available as well. But this is probally not going to come to pass, but it
is a dream I wish I could see...
Regards
Mark
--
Hand me my lightsaber... it's the one that says, 'Bad Mother Fucker.'
-- Samuel L. Jackson, Jedi
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