Off topic but has anybody removed that mass damper from there Torsen? Id rather 
have less mass than a minor improvement in noise and vibration. That thing has 
got to be a few pounds of rotating mass and it is rotating at ~4 times the rate 
of the wheels.  

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bryan Wyatt 
  To: 'Miata Power List' 
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:20 PM
  Subject: RE: How do I know it's a Torsen?


        IIRC, automatics have the damper, but I could be wrong.


        -Bryan


        --- On Fri, 2/5/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
wrote:


          From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
          Subject: RE: How do I know it's a Torsen?
          To: "Luis" <[email protected]>
          Cc: "'Bryan Wyatt'" <[email protected]>, "'Miata Power List'" 
<[email protected]>
          Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:52 PM


          if it were that easy , dont you think that tip would have become law 
in the miata community long ago?  but I d hope it is anyway, so that you have 
your cheap torsen and I can find one myself. !  :) 

            -------- Original Message --------
            Subject: RE: How do I know it's a Torsen?
            From: "Luis" <[email protected]>
            Date: Fri, February 05, 2010 7:13 pm
            To: "'Bryan Wyatt'" <[email protected]>, "'Miata Power List'"
            <[email protected]>


            Bryan,

            According to the differential spotters guide you are correct. At 
least I hope so, I just bought a TORSEN I didn’t need because the price was too 
good to pass up….  Well, I assumed it was TORSEN because it had the damper. 
I’ll have to verify it later.

            Luis


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            From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Wyatt
            Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:38 PM
            To: Miata Power List
            Subject: RE: How do I know it's a Torsen?

                  Dumb question, but don't all Torsens have the rubber damper 
where the driveshaft and the input to the diff meet?

                  - Bryan


                  --- On Mon, 2/1/10, [email protected] 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
                  Subject: RE: How do I know it's a Torsen?
                  To: "Ray" <[email protected]>
                  Cc: "Bill Cardell" <[email protected]>, "MataPowerList" 
<[email protected]>
                  Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 12:10 AM

                  thanks fir the replies guys.  obviously it's been while  
since I looked at that car.  when I did not get my replies (list problem for 
me, working on it) I called mazda usa .  car does NOT have the torsen, or, I 
should say, was not delivered new with one.

                  so that also tells me that Mazda USA is still available to 
ask the question. The guy said it was no problem and in fact they like these 
kinds of calls. Presumably, gain brand loyalty in the market?  

                  I'm still looking for a Red 84-07 with zero rust. Torsen 
optional, based on the price. I can get a Torsen for 800 or so.


                    -------- Original Message --------
                    Subject: Re: How do I know it's a Torsen?
                    From: "Ray" <[email protected]>
                    Date: Sun, January 31, 2010 8:19 pm
                    To: <[email protected]>, "Bill Cardell" 
<[email protected]>,
                    "MataPowerList " <[email protected]>

                     
                    I had a '94A and remember checking equipment options here.  
If the car came with cloth seats it probably didn't have a torsen.  If it did 
come with leather seats it probably came with torsen ... and the most underbody 
bracing of any year Miata.  The seats may have been replaced so look for the 
bracing (half a dozen round steel bars with flatened ends) under the rear of 
the body.  AFAIK the '94B (tan top & interior) did not have the bracing.
                      ----- Original Message ----- 
                      From: [email protected] 

                      To: Bill Cardell ; MataPowerList 
                      Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:45 PM
                      Subject: How do I know it's a Torsen?

                      Hi All, 

                      hoping to get some quick advice I'm looking at a 94 Miata 
and no idea if it's a Torsen or not

                      car has a/c but manual windows, no cruise, if that 
helps...

                      Thanks
                      CP



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