After I put the Miata on jackstands I grab the rollbar and shake it for all
I'm worth.  I figure if it doesn't come off at that point, it's not going to
come off even if I'm under it with a big wrench or an earthquake hits (well
a 5.0 or less at least).

It's never fallen off the stands with this shaking and only once did it move
more than I wanted it to, causing me to rearrange where the stands were
placed.  Normally it's like trying to move a 2000lb brick -- nothing
happens.

Mark

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Ken Bogart <[email protected]> wrote:

> You need to learn to trust your jackstands....  I have cars on them
> everyday in my garage.
>
> Another good alternative are Rhino Ramps. However, they really don't get
> the car high enough for the starter.
>
> Cinderblocks are NOT good jackstands.
>
> Ken Bogart
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Chuck <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Update:
>> a little gentle persuasion with a big wrench and some MMO in the cylinders
>> has done the trick.  The engine spins freely now.  It wasn't stuck very bad
>> - the real problem seems to be the starter.  I'm assuming it's rusted in
>> place, because the drive gear doesn't seem to budge when you hit the key.  I
>> don't have it out of the car yet, so I'm going by how it sounds.  A few
>> whacks with a hammer didn't make any difference.  Tonight I'll take it out
>> and see what I can do with it... or replace it.
>> BTW - I hate crawling under a car on jack stands... wish there was another
>> way to get those $%^#$% starter bolts out.  My neighbor was crushed to death
>> under his truck about 2 months ago, so I'm very wary of getting under 2000#
>> of steel.  I'm going to stack up some cinder blocks under the chassis "just
>> in case", but I still hate crawling under there.  Anybody want to come to
>> Indiana and do this for me? ;)
>> -Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>  Okay, you had no big wrench, but you couldn't get, what,  the CRANK
>> pulley to turn?  How did you try to turn the engine by hand?  What did you
>> do?  This is important.
>>
>>  In a message dated 7/10/2010 6:37:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> [email protected] writes:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> After almost 3 years off the road, I'm finally trying to get my 97 FM2
>> running again.  I took it apart to replace the wiring harness and ended up
>> doing suspension, cooling system and brakes too.  I'm getting close to
>> having it back together, and went to start it today... and got nothing.  I
>> haven't done a lot of trouble shooting yet, and thought I'd come here for
>> ideas first.
>>
>> The Link boots up and I get all the dashboard lights.  Fuel pump runs.
>> When I turn the key to start, the engine will not spin, the tach goes to
>> 2500 and there's a buzzing under the hood that sounds like a jammed electric
>> motor.  I do not hear anything like a starter engaging.... just the
>> buzzing.  Then the Link screen goes to all black bars and appears to
>> reboot.  The battery has a decent charge, and I've also tried with a charger
>> hooked up for extra boost.
>>
>> So... I pulled the plugs and #3 was really rusty, with a rust spot on top
>> of the piston.  I have no idea what leaked... but something did.  I didn't
>> have my big wrench handy, but with the plugs out I could not get the engine
>> to turn by hand.
>>
>> Considering the car has been in pieces for so long, it makes trouble
>> shooting a little harder.  Any ideas on what I should be looking at first?
>> If the engine is seized up, what's the best way to break it loose?  I double
>> checked the wiring harness compatibility when I swapped it 2 years ago, so
>> everything should be good there, but I'm not certain that it's not part of
>> the problem.
>> thanks!
>> -Chuck
>>
>>
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