Interested in hearing more on this, since I have a set ready to go on this
spring. Bill, have you had any issues at the shop?

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 7:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not sure which Porterfield pad I tried, but the things crumbled and fell
> apart.  Perhaps I received pads from a bad batch, but I've read several
> reports of the Porterfields crumbling.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Erickson <[email protected]>
> To: B Johnson <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, Mar 6, 2011 3:02 pm
> Subject: Re: Which hawk pads?
>
>  I've been happy with Porterfield R4S, I've been using them on my 93 dd
> for nearly 10 years/100k, still on the original factory rotors, 155k total
> mileage on the car. They don't dust overly bad. I have probably 10 or so
> track days in addition to the street miles. They're on my 94 FM2 also, but
> only have 15k or so street miles on them.
>
> FM used to sell them, not sure if they still do, but that qualifies them as
> good enough to put on a miata.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* B Johnson <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected] ; [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:44 AM
> *Subject:* RE: Which hawk pads?
>
>  hi list,
>
>  back onto my brakes, as the time is coming. this is an effort to
> marginally improve the street braking experience
>
>
>  ok i am getting close to doing my brakes/rotors/ and possibly caliper(s)
> if I find one is dragging (other post) on the 92 auto DD
>
>  the frustrating thing is that I would like better braking than oem or
> replacement pads. SOME listers have said the hawk street pads are the
> ticket, others say they are crappy feeling.
>
>  is there a pad that improves the braking from oem, but is durable for
> daily use?
>
>  also, are there rotors better than generic replacement ones from autozone
> or whatever? (resist warping)
>
>  finally, if anyone has upgraded their NA brakes, and has good rotors or
> caplipers I would be interested.
>
>
>
>  thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:09:09 -0500
> Subject: Re: Which hawk pads?
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
>
> Perhaps the issue is changing pad compounds on existing rotors? There is
> supposedly a film on a rotor that needs to be compatible with the pad
> compound. (I am not entirely convinced of this.)
>
>  I have replaced pads with HPS for a lot of people, and then PROPERLY bed
> them. They then grip with excellent feel. I have never had a disappointed
> customer yet. Of course, they are generally upgrading from stock (or worse)
> pads.
>
>
>  Ken Bogart
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>
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:58 PM, bvl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 12/16/10 12:20 PM, Robert M wrote:
>
>
>     When I was running my FMII on the track I used HP+.  They were dusty,
> noisy, spendy, and had great initial bite and easily modulated friction.
>
> Once I stopped going to the track I switched to HPS.   They were quiet,
> clean, and may as well have been made of wood.   Terrible feel- I really
> hated them.
>
> Weird that I had such a bad experience contrary to everyone else; I've no
> explanation for this.
>
>
> I don't think you are alone. Though not the same car, I went from HP+ to
> HPS on the subaru and the feel of the HPS
> is very soft in comparison. The initial bite is not there with a dead
> feeling post switching.
>
> Its been years since I had stock pads on the WRX, but I gather the HPS
> feels similar or a tad better then OEM.
>
> Reason for changing: HP+ is a high friction pad, plenty of dust (I do clean
> the car, but its heavy dust that does not like to be washed away easily),
> and the accelerated rotor wear I observed which for a street only car seemed
> a bit over the top.
>
> - b
>
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