On 4 Jan 2008, at 18:29, Andy Mabbett wrote:


On the names thing, I suppose I could be tagging something with the name
"John Smith", in which case I'd use rel-tag, or making "John Smith"
available to be downloaded as a vcard, in which case I'd use hcard. The semantics of "John Smith" haven't changed between those two examples. What I want to do with the phrase "John Smith" has, so the exact microformat I'd use depends on what I want to do with the names in the end, more than their
semantics.

But that's dependent on what *you"* want to do. If you use more consistent mark-up, then your users, and parsers, can deal with them as they see fit.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. What I want to do, in terms of marking up content, is determined by how people are going to use the web site. If people want more intelligent searches - 'show me manuscripts written by Captain Cook' - then rel-tag seems like the natural tool for marking up names. On the other hand, if people want more intelligent social networking - 'take me to Andy Mabbett's blog' - then marking up names wth hCard seems like the way forward. I don't see a use case for getting the contact details of Captain Cook.

hCard does a specific job very, very well - it enhances social networking. I'm struggling to see, though, how it generalises to marking up the names of all people, living and dead.

For instance, adding a tag doesn't tell a future search engine that your text is about a person.

I think the answer to this is the rel-tag microformat coupled with sensible URLs to give much more intelligent tags. Imagine if the Maritime Museum archives used tags like: <a rel="tag" href="/search/person/Emma_Hamilton">William Hamilton's wife</a>
<a rel="tag" href="/search/vessel/HMS_Victory">the Victory</a>
<a rel="tag" href="/search/person/Captain_James_Cook">Captain Cook</a>

There's enough info in the HTML there to allow for some quite intelligent searching. Classes distinguishing between the different types of tag could be added to the links too.

Jim

Jim O'Donnell
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