"Reminds me of looking at old photos of old(er) people back in the day, man they looked old for their age compared to today." It's obvious to those of us who flew at major airlines in the 90s that a generational change in health was under way amongst the pilots. Most of the pilots who were forced into retirement at 60 years old were very much ready to go. Many of them had smoked for years. It was only in the 90s that hotels began to have fitness rooms on the premises, and only in the late 90s did it become a feature in our contracts. It is far easier now for pilots to keep their weight down as many of us will actually chose trips based on the fitness options. When you hear pilots talk about layovers these days you will often hear comments about the fitness room(yet another reason to avoid trips to LHR). It is not unusual for hotels to have passes at nearby 24 Hour Fitness or YMCA and the like. On the other hand, yet another generational change may have begun. In the late 80s and all through the 90s the very comprehensive airline physical was the first part of the interview process, and many people did not pass it. At Delta they gave us a stress test. The sadistic med tech there enjoyed removing so much skin where he would attach the electrical sensors that I was bleeding in several places. No, I'm not being dramatic. It took a square foot or so of gauze and a bit of alcohol to clean me up afterward. The doctor wasn't much better. It's no surprise to me that Delta fired the lot after the "no flap attempted takeoff" at DFW. Because of some change in the law, the physical comes later in the interview process and doesn't exclude nearly as many pilots. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing but it was jarring for us older pilots to see new hires who weren't slender and obviously fit. Eric
> On 06/07/2025 1:56 AM EDT Michael Rurik Halaby via Mifnet > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The life expectancy for the average American born in 1900 was 40-50 years, so > perhaps she felt it! > Reminds me of looking at old photos of old(er) people back in the day, man > they looked old for their age compared to today. > > Michael Rurik Halaby, FRAeS > UK mobile/WhatsApp: +447711298408 tel:+447711298408 > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > instagram: halabyaerohttp://www.halaby.aero/ > > > On 7 Jun 2025, at 02:37, David Wardell via Mifnet <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Jack, > > One final tidbit from the article: > > The writer quotes AE as saying that she was thinking of wrapping up her > aviation exploits, as she was "getting old" at 38. > > One assumes she is thinking of the rigor of her adventures, which are > definitely in the world of the young, but still I can't recall reading > anything from that era which would describe 38 as "old." > > DW > > David Wardell > +1.757.561.0582 tel:+1.757.561.0582 > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Revised: 20250507 > > You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. > > The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't > exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the effort, > please know that it would be greatly appreciated: > https://wardell.us/url/mifbit > > All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: > > 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a privilege--not > a right. > 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the > author. > 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. > 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. > 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other > Mifnet members. > > * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: > https://www.mifnet.com/ > > * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: > [email protected]?subject=leave > > * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: > [email protected] > > * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: > [email protected] > > * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all > list traffic into 1-3 > messages daily. See instructions at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > > * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > > * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: > [email protected]?subject=help > > * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: > https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies > > * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: > https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems > > * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Revised: 20250507 > > You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. > > The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't > exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the effort, > please know that it would be greatly appreciated: > https://wardell.us/url/mifbit > > All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: > > 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a privilege--not > a right. > 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the > author. > 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. > 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. > 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other > Mifnet members. > > * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: > https://www.mifnet.com/ > > * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: [email protected]?subject=leave > > * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: > [email protected] > > * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: > [email protected] > > * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all > list traffic into 1-3 > messages daily. See instructions at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > > * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/ > > * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: > [email protected]?subject=help > > * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: > https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies > > * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: > https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems > > * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: > https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >
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