[Mifnet 🛰 74695] Re: Flight Cancellations

[RWM--- via Mifnet]

‘Generating the worst economics’ implies (at many, but far from all airlines) at the network not segment level, which also implies consideration of the value of affected passenger outcomes, some at a lifetime customer value level. As a passenger, YMMV. The far greater bet is how long the need to cut lasts, since it also disrupts aircraft and crew movement and location, which can affect maintenance planning and recovery time, especially as the cuts become larger in scope and longer in duration. - RWM On Nov 9, 2025, at 17:02, Carl Stork via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote:  Do you think that’s the wrong way to decide what to cut?   If the systems allow, I’d do a couple of additional things. I’d look at how many connecting passengers are impacted and whether there are reasonable alternatives for them. And I’d deprioritize short flights near main hubs that can be driven within 3 hours. Especially if it’s a high frequency route. DEN-COS you are at risk.   Evaluating individual flights on economics can be a bad idea if there are knock on impacts on connecting flights, and of course also depends on how the economics are allocated in the accounting system. That SMF-SFO flight may get low accounting credits but feed all its pax to HND TPE PVG FRA LHR HKG.   From: RWM--- via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2025 1:21 PM To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com Cc: r...@rwmann.com Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 74689] Re: Flight Cancellations   A practical opportunist would cut the targeted x% of flights expected to generate the worst economics during the slack period prior to ramp up to the holiday peak period, while hoping to disadvantage the least number of customers.   - RWM   On Nov 9, 2025, at 02:24, Karl L. Swartz via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: My guess is that 20% is MSU: Making Shit Up.    -- Karl.   On Nov 8, 2025, at 2:49 PM, ATHGroup--- via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote:     Does anyone know how FAA came up with the 20% target? Was there any analysis based on actual controller staffing or was it just a guess?   Michael xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx R. Michael Baiada cell - (303) 521-6047 rmbai...@greenlandings.net   From: Doug Church <dchurc...@gmail.com>  Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2025 13:04 To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com Cc: athgr...@baiada.com Subject: Re: [Mifnet 🛰 74670] Flight Cancellations   Michael,   My understanding is each airline is cancelling their flights based on their internal business criteria to meet the FAA's order.   -Doug Church   On Sat, Nov 8, 2025 at 3:09 PM ATHGroup--- via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote:   Does anyone know who is cancelling the flights during the shutdown cutback?   Is it each airlines cancelling their flights based on their internal business criteria to meet the FAA cancel goal, or is it the FAA cancelling the individual flights without regard to any of the airline’s business interests?   Michael xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx R. 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