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On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:35 PM Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users <
mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:

> Small update to this.  Updating the bh didn't resolve the issue - still
> needed to "restart" OSPF (specifically I'd disable & enable the OSPF
> network).
>
> Yesterday I turned off Multicast Enhancement on both masters of the BH.  I
> just hit 24 hour adjacency which I think is a new record.  Time will tell...
>
>
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>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> In my mind nothing but multicast.  I don't need any more nightmares
>> tonight.  Halloween and all that ;)
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 1:09 PM Robert Andrews via Mikrotik-users <
>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org wrote:
>>
>>> Makes you wonder what other corners of the IP protocol are being
>>> squashed by our radio coms...
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2018 08:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> > Well it's all AirOS and it's supposed to all act the same way from my
>>> > batch update scripts.
>>> >
>>> > No, I don't waste time with AirControl 1, 2, or 1 again...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Josh Luthman
>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>> > Suite 1337
>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Robert via Mikrotik-users
>>> > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     When you mentioned 3 Ghz radios, I wondered about that as I have
>>> some 3
>>> >     ghz equip that was archaic versions...
>>> >
>>> >     On 10/31/18 7:03 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users wrote:
>>> >     > So...uhh...this is kind of embarrassing.  I may have fixed it
>>> (OSPF just
>>> >     > his adjacency of 19h, previous max uptime was 12 hours).
>>> Someone
>>> >     > mentioned the Ubnt backhaul versions or something so I double
>>> checked
>>> >     > and it never got updated.  One of the two backhauls was running
>>> 5.5 or
>>> >     > something ancient.  I upgraded it and everything seems to be OK
>>> now, at
>>> >     > least we're hitting a new record after 4 days of <12 hour
>>> uptimes.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I don't work much with multicast but I was always under the
>>> impression
>>> >     > that APWDS and STAWDS simply acted as a transparent bridge.
>>> Clearly it
>>> >     > doesn't.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Sorry for the noise and thanks for the sanity checks/making me
>>> look at
>>> >     > the firmware versions on the backhauls!
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Josh Luthman
>>> >     > Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >     > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >     > 1100 Wayne St
>>> >     > Suite 1337
>>> >     > Troy, OH 45373
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users
>>> >     > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>>> >     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> >>>
>>> >     wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     I would make sure spanning tree is off on the 750 sw bridge
>>> and go
>>> >     >     ahead and turn off Multicast Enhancement on the APs (leave
>>> Multicast
>>> >     >     Allowed as enabled).
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     Sent from my iPhone
>>> >     >
>>> >     >     On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >      >     <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>> >     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> >     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>> >     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
>>> >     >     wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >>     Multicast Data is allowed and Multicast Enhancement is
>>> Enabled on
>>> >     >>     the AP.  The STA Multicast Data is allowed by there is no
>>> option
>>> >     >>     for Multicast Enhancement.  Should I disable the
>>> enhancement on
>>> >     >>     the AP only?  I assume I have to enable Multicast on these
>>> links.
>>> >     >>     (FYI one is 5 GHz the other is 3.65 GHz - 802.11n "M" gear).
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>     There is an RB750 switch (software bridge).  L2 MTU 1598.
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>     Josh Luthman
>>> >     >>     Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >     >>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >     >>     1100 Wayne St
>>> >     >>     Suite 1337
>>> >     >>     Troy, OH 45373
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Jesse Dupont via
>>> Mikrotik-users
>>> >     >>     <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>>> >     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> >>>
>>> >     wrote:
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>         I think it’s an LSA flooding issue, especially since it
>>> works
>>> >     >>         for a while then stops, then comes back. Disabling the
>>> >     >>         instance as you do to fix it makes the whole adjacency
>>> start
>>> >     >>         over which starts with new LSAs.
>>> >     >>         Using a “broadcast” network type doesn’t use broadcasts
>>> to
>>> >     >>         establish the adjacencies, it still uses multicast. It
>>> just
>>> >     >>         allows for the election of the DR/BDR and more than two
>>> >     >>         endpoints compared to Point-to-point network type.
>>> Anyway,
>>> >     >>         it’s not the issue.
>>> >     >>         Have you tried disabling (or enabling if it’s currently
>>> >     >>         disabled) Multicast Enhancement on the two UBNT links?
>>> Is
>>> >     >>         there a switch between the two UBNT links in the middle?
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>         Sent from my iPhone
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>         On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman via
>>> Mikrotik-users
>>> >      >>         <mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> >     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> >     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>>
>>> >     >>         wrote:
>>> >     >>
>>> >     >>>         In your case did you use a "hidden non used" /30 to
>>> build the
>>> >     >>>         eoip and then put your good IPs on top of the eoip?
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>         Josh Luthman
>>> >     >>>         Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >     >>>         Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >     >>>         1100 Wayne St
>>> >     >>>         Suite 1337
>>> >     >>>         Troy, OH 45373
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>         On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Adam R Johnson
>>> >     >>>         <ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>
>>> >     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>             Ours was/is a /29.
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>             *ADAM JOHNSON — PRESIDENT*
>>> >     >>>             (815) 304-6008 | ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:
>>> ajohn...@thewisp.net>
>>> >     >>>             <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:
>>> ajohn...@thewisp.net>>
>>> >     >>>             PO BOX 460 TAMPICO,IL 61283
>>> >     >>>             *WWW.THEWISP.NET <http://WWW.THEWISP.NET> | *
>>> >     >>>             <http://www.thewisp.net/><
>>> http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet
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>>> >     >>>             <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet <
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>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>             On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Josh Luthman via
>>> >     >>>             Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>>> >     >>>             <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> wrote:
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>                 Between the two routers it's a /30
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>                 Interesting thing to note...it came back up on
>>> its
>>> >     >>>                 own over lunch.  About 11 hours of it not
>>> working
>>> >     >>>                 (see the log previously posted).
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>                 Josh Luthman
>>> >     >>>                 Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >     >>>                 Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >     >>>                 1100 Wayne St
>>> >     >>>                 <
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>>> >     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >>
>>> >     >>>                 Suite 1337
>>> >     >>>                 <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >>
>>> >     >>>                 Troy, OH 45373
>>> >     >>>                 <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >>
>>> >     >>>
>>> >     >>>                 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Robert
>>> Andrews via
>>> >     >>>                 Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>>> >      >>>                 <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> >     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> wrote:
>>> >      >>>
>>> >      >>>                     So this brings up a question that we ran
>>> into,
>>> >      >>>                     what are the netmasks
>>> >      >>>                     around these links?
>>> >      >>>
>>> >      >>>                     On 10/30/2018 10:14 AM, Adam R Johnson via
>>> >      >>>                     Mikrotik-users wrote:
>>> >      >>>                     > Hey Josh,
>>> >      >>>                     >
>>> >      >>>                     > Just throwing in my 2 cents here. We
>>> have
>>> >     a very similar situation. What
>>> >      >>>                     > was once a powercode bmu, is now a
>>> rb3011
>>> >     connected to an AF24<>AF24
>>> >      >>>                     > then another rb3011. The 3011s will not
>>> >     complete adjacency, where the
>>> >      >>>                     > bmu and 3011 did originally. Our OSPF
>>> >     setup is PtP in these scenarios.
>>> >      >>>                     > We have this setup in 2 separate
>>> >     locations on our network, and each has
>>> >      >>>                     > the same problem. Our 'stab in the dark'
>>> >     fix was adding a secondary and
>>> >      >>>                     > temporary 192.168.x.x/24 on the segment,
>>> >     and it created adjacency and
>>> >      >>>                     > ran without error. We did the same for
>>> >     the second instance with the same
>>> >      >>>                     > result.
>>> >      >>>                     >
>>> >      >>>                     > We revisited the issue, to try to
>>> resolve
>>> >     a week or so later, but was
>>> >      >>>                     > unable to find the cause or solution in
>>> >     the time we had. Given that it
>>> >      >>>                     > was working without error, albeit
>>> >     slightly messy, we have left it in
>>> >      >>>                     > place with more important things to
>>> >     tackle. It has been like this for
>>> >      >>>                     > about 8 months now.
>>> >      >>>                     >
>>> >      >>>                     > Im not necessarily advocating this as a
>>> >     fix, but it is a workaround that
>>> >      >>>                     > may provide further information to lead
>>> >     to the issues cause, and imho is
>>> >      >>>                     > a bit nicer than an EoIP tunnel.
>>> >      >>>                     >
>>> >      >>>                     > Cheers!
>>> >      >>>                     >
>>> >      >>>                     > *ADAM JOHNSON — PRESIDENT*
>>> >      >>>                     > (815) 304-6008 | ajohn...@thewisp.net
>>> >     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>
>>> >      >>>                     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net
>>> >     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>>
>>> >      >>>                     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net
>>> >     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>
>>> >     >>>                     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:
>>> ajohn...@thewisp.net>>>
>>> >     >>>                     > PO BOX 460 TAMPICO,IL 61283
>>> >      >>>
>>> >       <
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>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=460+TAMPICO,IL+61283&entry=gmail&source=g>>
>>> >      >>>                     > *WWW.THEWISP.NET <
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>>> >     <http://WWW.THEWISP.NET> | *
>>> >      >>>                     >
>>> >      >>>
>>> >       <http://www.thewisp.net/><http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet
>>> >     <http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet>
>>> >      >>>                     <http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet
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>>> >      >>>                     > <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet
>>> >     <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet>
>>> >     >>>                     <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet <
>>> http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet>>>
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:37 AM Josh
>>> Luthman via Mikrotik-users
>>> >     >>>                     > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>>> >     >>>                     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>
>>> >      >>>                     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>> >     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>>> >     >>>                     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>>> wrote:
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >     CCR goes through two Ubnt wireless
>>> links before hitting the RB750.
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >     On the CCR1009 it is ether4 - not a
>>> combo port, not switched.
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >     Josh Luthman
>>> >     >>>                     >     Office: 937-552-2340
>>> >     >>>                     >     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> >     >>>                     >     1100 Wayne St
>>> >     >>>                     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >     <
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>>> >>
>>> >     >>>                     >     Suite 1337
>>> >     >>>                     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >>
>>> >     >>>                     >     Troy, OH 45373
>>> >     >>>                     <
>>> https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g
>>> >     <
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>>> >>
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:33 AM,
>>> Scott <lamb...@lambertfam.org <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>
>>> >     >>>                     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org <mailto:
>>> lamb...@lambertfam.org>>
>>> >      >>>                     >     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org
>>> >     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>
>>> >     >>>                     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org <mailto:
>>> lamb...@lambertfam.org>>>> wrote:
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >         On 2018/10/30 09:24, Josh
>>> Luthman wrote:
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >             There are two Ubnt backhauls
>>> between them.
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >         With recent firmware it
>>> shouldn't be a big deal to run
>>> >     >>>                     >         broadcast.  I always run
>>> Point-to-point over wireless links with
>>> >     >>>                     >         exactly two endpoints.  A lot of
>>> that is leftover from when most
>>> >     >>>                     >         802.11 based wireless links had
>>> issues with broadcast.
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >         What connects the two
>>> backhauls?  Crossover cable?  Switch,
>>> >     >>>                     >         smart or dumb, brand?
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >         Which interface are you using on
>>> the 1009?  Is it a combo port?
>>> >     >>>                     >         Is it in the switch group?
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >
>>> >     >>>                     >         --
>>> >     >>>                     >         Scott Lambert
>>> KC5MLE                     Unix
>>> >     >>>                     >         SysAdmin
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