Makes you wonder what other corners of the IP protocol are being squashed by our radio coms...
On 10/31/2018 08:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Well it's all AirOS and it's supposed to all act the same way from my > batch update scripts. > > No, I don't waste time with AirControl 1, 2, or 1 again... > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Robert via Mikrotik-users > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote: > > When you mentioned 3 Ghz radios, I wondered about that as I have some 3 > ghz equip that was archaic versions... > > On 10/31/18 7:03 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users wrote: > > So...uhh...this is kind of embarrassing. I may have fixed it (OSPF > just > > his adjacency of 19h, previous max uptime was 12 hours). Someone > > mentioned the Ubnt backhaul versions or something so I double checked > > and it never got updated. One of the two backhauls was running 5.5 or > > something ancient. I upgraded it and everything seems to be OK now, at > > least we're hitting a new record after 4 days of <12 hour uptimes. > > > > I don't work much with multicast but I was always under the impression > > that APWDS and STAWDS simply acted as a transparent bridge. Clearly it > > doesn't. > > > > Sorry for the noise and thanks for the sanity checks/making me look at > > the firmware versions on the backhauls! > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users > > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> > wrote: > > > > I would make sure spanning tree is off on the 750 sw bridge and go > > ahead and turn off Multicast Enhancement on the APs (leave Multicast > > Allowed as enabled). > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> > > wrote: > > > >> Multicast Data is allowed and Multicast Enhancement is Enabled on > >> the AP. The STA Multicast Data is allowed by there is no option > >> for Multicast Enhancement. Should I disable the enhancement on > >> the AP only? I assume I have to enable Multicast on these links. > >> (FYI one is 5 GHz the other is 3.65 GHz - 802.11n "M" gear). > >> > >> There is an RB750 switch (software bridge). L2 MTU 1598. > >> > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users > >> <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> > wrote: > >> > >> I think it’s an LSA flooding issue, especially since it works > >> for a while then stops, then comes back. Disabling the > >> instance as you do to fix it makes the whole adjacency start > >> over which starts with new LSAs. > >> Using a “broadcast” network type doesn’t use broadcasts to > >> establish the adjacencies, it still uses multicast. It just > >> allows for the election of the DR/BDR and more than two > >> endpoints compared to Point-to-point network type. Anyway, > >> it’s not the issue. > >> Have you tried disabling (or enabling if it’s currently > >> disabled) Multicast Enhancement on the two UBNT links? Is > >> there a switch between the two UBNT links in the middle? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users > >> <mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> In your case did you use a "hidden non used" /30 to build the > >>> eoip and then put your good IPs on top of the eoip? > >>> > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Adam R Johnson > >>> <ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net> > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Ours was/is a /29. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *ADAM JOHNSON — PRESIDENT* > >>> (815) 304-6008 | ajohn...@thewisp.net > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net> > >>> <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>> > >>> PO BOX 460 TAMPICO,IL 61283 > >>> *WWW.THEWISP.NET <http://WWW.THEWISP.NET> | * > >>> > <http://www.thewisp.net/><http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet > <http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet>> > >>> <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet > <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Josh Luthman via > >>> Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Between the two routers it's a /30 > >>> > >>> Interesting thing to note...it came back up on its > >>> own over lunch. About 11 hours of it not working > >>> (see the log previously posted). > >>> > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Robert Andrews via > >>> Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> So this brings up a question that we ran into, > >>> what are the netmasks > >>> around these links? > >>> > >>> On 10/30/2018 10:14 AM, Adam R Johnson via > >>> Mikrotik-users wrote: > >>> > Hey Josh, > >>> > > >>> > Just throwing in my 2 cents here. We have > a very similar situation. What > >>> > was once a powercode bmu, is now a rb3011 > connected to an AF24<>AF24 > >>> > then another rb3011. The 3011s will not > complete adjacency, where the > >>> > bmu and 3011 did originally. Our OSPF > setup is PtP in these scenarios. > >>> > We have this setup in 2 separate > locations on our network, and each has > >>> > the same problem. Our 'stab in the dark' > fix was adding a secondary and > >>> > temporary 192.168.x.x/24 on the segment, > and it created adjacency and > >>> > ran without error. We did the same for > the second instance with the same > >>> > result. > >>> > > >>> > We revisited the issue, to try to resolve > a week or so later, but was > >>> > unable to find the cause or solution in > the time we had. Given that it > >>> > was working without error, albeit > slightly messy, we have left it in > >>> > place with more important things to > tackle. It has been like this for > >>> > about 8 months now. > >>> > > >>> > Im not necessarily advocating this as a > fix, but it is a workaround that > >>> > may provide further information to lead > to the issues cause, and imho is > >>> > a bit nicer than an EoIP tunnel. > >>> > > >>> > Cheers! > >>> > > >>> > *ADAM JOHNSON — PRESIDENT* > >>> > (815) 304-6008 | ajohn...@thewisp.net > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net> > >>> <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>> > >>> <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net> > >>> <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net > <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>>> > >>> > PO BOX 460 TAMPICO,IL 61283 > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=460+TAMPICO,IL+61283&entry=gmail&source=g > <https://maps.google.com/?q=460+TAMPICO,IL+61283&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> > *WWW.THEWISP.NET <http://WWW.THEWISP.NET> > <http://WWW.THEWISP.NET> | * > >>> > > >>> > <http://www.thewisp.net/><http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet > <http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet> > >>> <http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet > <http://www.facebook.com/thewispnet>>> > >>> > <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet > <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet> > >>> <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet > <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet>>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:37 AM Josh Luthman > via Mikrotik-users > >>> > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >>> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > CCR goes through two Ubnt wireless links > before hitting the RB750. > >>> > > >>> > On the CCR1009 it is ether4 - not a combo > port, not switched. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Josh Luthman > >>> > Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> > 1100 Wayne St > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> > Suite 1337 > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> > Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>> > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Scott > <lamb...@lambertfam.org <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org> > >>> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>> > >>> > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org> > >>> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > On 2018/10/30 09:24, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>> > > >>> > There are two Ubnt backhauls > between them. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > With recent firmware it shouldn't be a > big deal to run > >>> > broadcast. I always run Point-to-point > over wireless links with > >>> > exactly two endpoints. A lot of that > is leftover from when most > >>> > 802.11 based wireless links had issues > with broadcast. > >>> > > >>> > What connects the two backhauls? > Crossover cable? Switch, > >>> > smart or dumb, brand? > >>> > > >>> > Which interface are you using on the > 1009? Is it a combo port? > >>> > Is it in the switch group? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Scott Lambert KC5MLE > Unix > >>> > SysAdmin > >>> > lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org> > >>> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>> > >>> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org> > >>> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org > <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Mikrotik-users mailing list > >>> > Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >>> <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> > >>> > > >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > >>> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Mikrotik-users mailing list > >>> > Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >>> > > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > >>> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mikrotik-users mailing list > >>> Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > >>> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mikrotik-users mailing list > >>> Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > >>> <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mikrotik-users mailing list > >>> Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > >>> <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mikrotik-users mailing list > >> Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > >> <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mikrotik-users mailing list > > Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users>> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mikrotik-users mailing list > > Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik-users mailing list > Mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:Mikrotik-users@wispa.org> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users> > > _______________________________________________ Mikrotik-users mailing list Mikrotik-users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik-users