Makes you wonder what other corners of the IP protocol are being 
squashed by our radio coms...

On 10/31/2018 08:34 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Well it's all AirOS and it's supposed to all act the same way from my 
> batch update scripts.
> 
> No, I don't waste time with AirControl 1, 2, or 1 again...
> 
> 
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> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Robert via Mikrotik-users 
> <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
> 
>     When you mentioned 3 Ghz radios, I wondered about that as I have some 3
>     ghz equip that was archaic versions...
> 
>     On 10/31/18 7:03 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users wrote:
>     > So...uhh...this is kind of embarrassing.  I may have fixed it (OSPF 
> just 
>     > his adjacency of 19h, previous max uptime was 12 hours).  Someone 
>     > mentioned the Ubnt backhaul versions or something so I double checked 
>     > and it never got updated.  One of the two backhauls was running 5.5 or 
>     > something ancient.  I upgraded it and everything seems to be OK now, at 
>     > least we're hitting a new record after 4 days of <12 hour uptimes.
>     > 
>     > I don't work much with multicast but I was always under the impression 
>     > that APWDS and STAWDS simply acted as a transparent bridge.  Clearly it 
>     > doesn't.
>     > 
>     > Sorry for the noise and thanks for the sanity checks/making me look at 
>     > the firmware versions on the backhauls!
>     > 
>     > 
>     > Josh Luthman
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>     > 
>     > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users 
>     > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
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>     wrote:
>     > 
>     >     I would make sure spanning tree is off on the 750 sw bridge and go
>     >     ahead and turn off Multicast Enhancement on the APs (leave Multicast
>     >     Allowed as enabled).
>     > 
>     >     Sent from my iPhone
>     > 
>     >     On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman
>      >     <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
>     >     wrote:
>     > 
>     >>     Multicast Data is allowed and Multicast Enhancement is Enabled on
>     >>     the AP.  The STA Multicast Data is allowed by there is no option
>     >>     for Multicast Enhancement.  Should I disable the enhancement on
>     >>     the AP only?  I assume I have to enable Multicast on these links. 
>     >>     (FYI one is 5 GHz the other is 3.65 GHz - 802.11n "M" gear).
>     >>
>     >>     There is an RB750 switch (software bridge).  L2 MTU 1598.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     Josh Luthman
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>     >>
>     >>     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users
>     >>     <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
>     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>>
>     wrote:
>     >>
>     >>         I think it’s an LSA flooding issue, especially since it works
>     >>         for a while then stops, then comes back. Disabling the
>     >>         instance as you do to fix it makes the whole adjacency start
>     >>         over which starts with new LSAs.
>     >>         Using a “broadcast” network type doesn’t use broadcasts to
>     >>         establish the adjacencies, it still uses multicast. It just
>     >>         allows for the election of the DR/BDR and more than two
>     >>         endpoints compared to Point-to-point network type. Anyway,
>     >>         it’s not the issue.
>     >>         Have you tried disabling (or enabling if it’s currently
>     >>         disabled) Multicast Enhancement on the two UBNT links? Is
>     >>         there a switch between the two UBNT links in the middle?
>     >>
>     >>         Sent from my iPhone
>     >>
>     >>         On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users
>      >>         <mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org
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>     >>         wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>         In your case did you use a "hidden non used" /30 to build the
>     >>>         eoip and then put your good IPs on top of the eoip?
>     >>>
>     >>>
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>     >>>         On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Adam R Johnson
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>     <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>             Ours was/is a /29.
>     >>>
>     >>>
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>     >>>             On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Josh Luthman via
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>     >>>
>     >>>                 Between the two routers it's a /30
>     >>>
>     >>>                 Interesting thing to note...it came back up on its
>     >>>                 own over lunch.  About 11 hours of it not working
>     >>>                 (see the log previously posted).
>     >>>
>     >>>
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>     >>>
>     >>>                 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Robert Andrews via
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>     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>>                     So this brings up a question that we ran into,
>      >>>                     what are the netmasks
>      >>>                     around these links?
>      >>>
>      >>>                     On 10/30/2018 10:14 AM, Adam R Johnson via
>      >>>                     Mikrotik-users wrote:
>      >>>                     > Hey Josh,
>      >>>                     >
>      >>>                     > Just throwing in my 2 cents here. We have
>     a very similar situation. What
>      >>>                     > was once a powercode bmu, is now a rb3011
>     connected to an AF24<>AF24
>      >>>                     > then another rb3011. The 3011s will not
>     complete adjacency, where the
>      >>>                     > bmu and 3011 did originally. Our OSPF
>     setup is PtP in these scenarios.
>      >>>                     > We have this setup in 2 separate
>     locations on our network, and each has
>      >>>                     > the same problem. Our 'stab in the dark'
>     fix was adding a secondary and
>      >>>                     > temporary 192.168.x.x/24 on the segment,
>     and it created adjacency and
>      >>>                     > ran without error. We did the same for
>     the second instance with the same
>      >>>                     > result.
>      >>>                     >
>      >>>                     > We revisited the issue, to try to resolve
>     a week or so later, but was
>      >>>                     > unable to find the cause or solution in
>     the time we had. Given that it
>      >>>                     > was working without error, albeit
>     slightly messy, we have left it in
>      >>>                     > place with more important things to
>     tackle. It has been like this for
>      >>>                     > about 8 months now.
>      >>>                     >
>      >>>                     > Im not necessarily advocating this as a
>     fix, but it is a workaround that
>      >>>                     > may provide further information to lead
>     to the issues cause, and imho is
>      >>>                     > a bit nicer than an EoIP tunnel.
>      >>>                     >
>      >>>                     > Cheers!
>      >>>                     >
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>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:37 AM Josh Luthman 
> via Mikrotik-users 
>     >>>                     > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org 
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>     >>>                     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org 
> <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>>> wrote:
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >     CCR goes through two Ubnt wireless links 
> before hitting the RB750.
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >     On the CCR1009 it is ether4 - not a combo 
> port, not switched.
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >     Josh Luthman
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>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Scott 
> <lamb...@lambertfam.org <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>
>     >>>                     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org 
> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>>
>      >>>                     >     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org
>     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>
>     >>>                     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org 
> <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>>>> wrote:
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >         On 2018/10/30 09:24, Josh Luthman wrote:
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >             There are two Ubnt backhauls 
> between them.
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >         With recent firmware it shouldn't be a 
> big deal to run
>     >>>                     >         broadcast.  I always run Point-to-point 
> over wireless links with
>     >>>                     >         exactly two endpoints.  A lot of that 
> is leftover from when most
>     >>>                     >         802.11 based wireless links had issues 
> with broadcast.
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >         What connects the two backhauls?  
> Crossover cable?  Switch,
>     >>>                     >         smart or dumb, brand?
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >         Which interface are you using on the 
> 1009?  Is it a combo port? 
>     >>>                     >         Is it in the switch group?
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     > 
>     >>>                     >         -- 
>     >>>                     >         Scott Lambert                  KC5MLE   
>                   Unix
>     >>>                     >         SysAdmin
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