When you mentioned 3 Ghz radios, I wondered about that as I have some 3 
ghz equip that was archaic versions...

On 10/31/18 7:03 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users wrote:
> So...uhh...this is kind of embarrassing.  I may have fixed it (OSPF just 
> his adjacency of 19h, previous max uptime was 12 hours).  Someone 
> mentioned the Ubnt backhaul versions or something so I double checked 
> and it never got updated.  One of the two backhauls was running 5.5 or 
> something ancient.  I upgraded it and everything seems to be OK now, at 
> least we're hitting a new record after 4 days of <12 hour uptimes.
> 
> I don't work much with multicast but I was always under the impression 
> that APWDS and STAWDS simply acted as a transparent bridge.  Clearly it 
> doesn't.
> 
> Sorry for the noise and thanks for the sanity checks/making me look at 
> the firmware versions on the backhauls!
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
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> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users 
> <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
> 
>     I would make sure spanning tree is off on the 750 sw bridge and go
>     ahead and turn off Multicast Enhancement on the APs (leave Multicast
>     Allowed as enabled).
> 
>     Sent from my iPhone
> 
>     On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman
>     <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>     wrote:
> 
>>     Multicast Data is allowed and Multicast Enhancement is Enabled on
>>     the AP.  The STA Multicast Data is allowed by there is no option
>>     for Multicast Enhancement.  Should I disable the enhancement on
>>     the AP only?  I assume I have to enable Multicast on these links. 
>>     (FYI one is 5 GHz the other is 3.65 GHz - 802.11n "M" gear).
>>
>>     There is an RB750 switch (software bridge).  L2 MTU 1598.
>>
>>
>>     Josh Luthman
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>>     Suite 1337
>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users
>>     <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         I think it’s an LSA flooding issue, especially since it works
>>         for a while then stops, then comes back. Disabling the
>>         instance as you do to fix it makes the whole adjacency start
>>         over which starts with new LSAs.
>>         Using a “broadcast” network type doesn’t use broadcasts to
>>         establish the adjacencies, it still uses multicast. It just
>>         allows for the election of the DR/BDR and more than two
>>         endpoints compared to Point-to-point network type. Anyway,
>>         it’s not the issue.
>>         Have you tried disabling (or enabling if it’s currently
>>         disabled) Multicast Enhancement on the two UBNT links? Is
>>         there a switch between the two UBNT links in the middle?
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>         On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users
>>         <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>>         In your case did you use a "hidden non used" /30 to build the
>>>         eoip and then put your good IPs on top of the eoip?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Josh Luthman
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>>>         On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Adam R Johnson
>>>         <ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Ours was/is a /29.
>>>
>>>
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>>>             On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Josh Luthman via
>>>             Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>>             <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Between the two routers it's a /30
>>>
>>>                 Interesting thing to note...it came back up on its
>>>                 own over lunch.  About 11 hours of it not working
>>>                 (see the log previously posted).
>>>
>>>
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>>>                 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Robert Andrews via
>>>                 Mikrotik-users <mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>>                 <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     So this brings up a question that we ran into,
>>>                     what are the netmasks
>>>                     around these links?
>>>
>>>                     On 10/30/2018 10:14 AM, Adam R Johnson via
>>>                     Mikrotik-users wrote:
>>>                     > Hey Josh,
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > Just throwing in my 2 cents here. We have a very 
>>> similar situation. What 
>>>                     > was once a powercode bmu, is now a rb3011 connected 
>>> to an AF24<>AF24 
>>>                     > then another rb3011. The 3011s will not complete 
>>> adjacency, where the 
>>>                     > bmu and 3011 did originally. Our OSPF setup is PtP in 
>>> these scenarios. 
>>>                     > We have this setup in 2 separate locations on our 
>>> network, and each has 
>>>                     > the same problem. Our 'stab in the dark' fix was 
>>> adding a secondary and 
>>>                     > temporary 192.168.x.x/24 on the segment, and it 
>>> created adjacency and 
>>>                     > ran without error. We did the same for the second 
>>> instance with the same 
>>>                     > result.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > We revisited the issue, to try to resolve a week or 
>>> so later, but was 
>>>                     > unable to find the cause or solution in the time we 
>>> had. Given that it 
>>>                     > was working without error, albeit slightly messy, we 
>>> have left it in 
>>>                     > place with more important things to tackle. It has 
>>> been like this for 
>>>                     > about 8 months now.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > Im not necessarily advocating this as a fix, but it 
>>> is a workaround that 
>>>                     > may provide further information to lead to the issues 
>>> cause, and imho is 
>>>                     > a bit nicer than an EoIP tunnel.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > Cheers!
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>>>                     > 
>>>                     > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:37 AM Josh Luthman via 
>>> Mikrotik-users 
>>>                     > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org
>>>                     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>
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>>>                     <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>>> wrote:
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >     CCR goes through two Ubnt wireless links before 
>>> hitting the RB750.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >     On the CCR1009 it is ether4 - not a combo port, 
>>> not switched.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >     Josh Luthman
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>>>                     >     Suite 1337
>>>                     
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>>>                     >     Troy, OH 45373
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>>>                     > 
>>>                     >     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Scott 
>>> <lamb...@lambertfam.org
>>>                     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>
>>>                     >     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org
>>>                     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>>> wrote:
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >         On 2018/10/30 09:24, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >             There are two Ubnt backhauls between them.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >         With recent firmware it shouldn't be a big 
>>> deal to run
>>>                     >         broadcast.  I always run Point-to-point over 
>>> wireless links with
>>>                     >         exactly two endpoints.  A lot of that is 
>>> leftover from when most
>>>                     >         802.11 based wireless links had issues with 
>>> broadcast.
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >         What connects the two backhauls?  Crossover 
>>> cable?  Switch,
>>>                     >         smart or dumb, brand?
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >         Which interface are you using on the 1009?  
>>> Is it a combo port? 
>>>                     >         Is it in the switch group?
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > 
>>>                     > 
>>>                     >         -- 
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