Got it. I was looking at setting up a pinger of some sort to keep it refreshed. How can i add static nat?
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:15 PM To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] pseudobridge polled devices question Yep - /tool netwatch Pretty self explanatory, but simply put: You give it an IP (not host name =(, error timeout and duration and it pings that IP every duration and if the response is greater then the timeout it is a failed ping. It's a lot like an automated fping if you know what that is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM, David Smith < david.sm...@preferredtechnology.com> wrote: > Netwatch? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:06 PM > To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] pseudobridge polled devices question > > Looks like you are right: > *station-pseudobridge* - wireless station that can be put in bridge. MAC > NAT > is performed on all traffic sent over the wireless interface, so that it > look like coming from the station's MAC address regardless of the actual > sender (the standard does not allow station to send packets with different > MAC address from its own). Reverse translation (when replies arrive from > the > AP to the pseudobridge station) is based on the ARP table. Non-IP protocols > are being sent to the default MAC address (the last MAC address, which the > station has received a non-IP packet from). That means that if there is > more > than one client that uses non-IP protocols (for example, PPPoE) behind the > station, none of them will be able to work correctly > > Still, you should not have problems with ARP with good links to your > stations on wlan2. If you really care about it add netwatch to the rb433 > to > them every 2 minutes. This will leave the MACs in the ARP table. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM, David Smith < > david.sm...@preferredtechnology.com> wrote: > > > Yes, but the pseudobridge only presents ONE MAC address to the network > site > > - it's own. The pseudo then answers as a proxy for any MAC addresses > behind > > it (the ones in its table). What happens when these entries time out? > > WDS would be the switch equivalent, not pseudo. > > I cant implement WDS. > > ds > > > > David Smith > > > > Preferred Technology Solutions > > 212 West Spring Valley Rd > > Richardson, TX 75081 > > Office: 972-331-5610 > > Cell: 972-898-2626 > > Fax: 972-644-4911 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto: > > mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:47 PM > > To: Mikrotik discussions > > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] pseudobridge polled devices question > > > > Bridging is more like a switch. Not sure what you mean by NAT for > MACs... > > > > The bridge will learn MACs and, like a switch versus a hub, it will only > > send the traffic to the port of which the MAC answered from. > > > > The MAC table (normally called the ARP table) in every device but Cisco > (to > > my knowledge) will clear out after 2 minutes or if it answered twice > within > > that timeout will clear after 10 minutes. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > improbable, must be the truth." > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:42 PM, David Smith < > > david.sm...@preferredtechnology.com> wrote: > > > > > I am just learning that this may be an issue, so bear with me. > > > My understanding of pseudobridge is that it is basically a NAT for MAC > > > addresses. > > > So, the pseudobridge MAC NAT table would only be populated with MAC > > > addresses from devices behind the pseudobridge that had initiated some > > sort > > > of traffic that went out the bridge. > > > If that is the case, then would not the MAC NAT "table" time out, or > then > > > entries expire after a period of time? BTW, what is the default time, > and > > > how to populate the table with static entries? > > > Thanks for your patience, > > > > > > David Smith > > > > > > Preferred Technology Solutions > > > 212 West Spring Valley Rd > > > Richardson, TX 75081 > > > Office: 972-331-5610 > > > Cell: 972-898-2626 > > > Fax: 972-644-4911 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto: > > > mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:35 PM > > > To: Mikrotik discussions > > > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] pseudobridge polled devices question > > > > > > Shouldn't have a problem...if you're really concerned you can put the > > MACs > > > in staticly but if you have a delay in ARP resolution then you have a > > poor > > > link. > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > Suite 1337 > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > > improbable, must be the truth." > > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM, David Smith < > > > david.sm...@preferredtechnology.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I have a rb433 with (2) 52 radios. > > > > > > > > One radio (WLAN1) is 802.11a and connects to an ap which is connected > > to > > > > the default gateway. > > > > > > > > The other radio (WLAN2) is 802.11bg and allows client access with 1 > > > > SSID. > > > > > > > > WLAN 1 is Station pseudobridge, and WLAN2 is ap-bridge. > > > > > > > > On the WLAN2 side, the clients consist of 802.11bg to serial terminal > > > > servers (up to 5 of them associated). (These are the same as serial > to > > > > Ethernet, just wifi enabled.)They all have static IP address on the > > same > > > > subnet as the rest of the network, as is the default gateway. > > > > > > > > These devices are polled via IP address ONCE every hour from a remote > > > > site using a VPN connection to the default gateway. > > > > > > > > So, using pseudobridge, will I have an issue polling the devices > behind > > > > the 802.11bg radio since traffic is initiated only on the default > > > > gateway side? > > > > > > > > Will the arp table entries on pseudobridge expire is my concern. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Smith > > > > > > > > > > > > Preferred Technology Solutions > > > > 212 West Spring Valley Rd > > > > Richardson, TX 75081 > > > > Office: 972-331-5610 > > > > Cell: 972-898-2626 > > > > Fax: 972-644-4911 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: < > > > > > > > > > > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090504/d668ee30/attachment.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mikrotik mailing list > > > > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > > > > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > > > > > > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > > > > RouterOS > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > > > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090504/7fa6360f/attachment.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mikrotik mailing list > > > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > > > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > > > > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > > > RouterOS > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mikrotik mailing list > > > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > > > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > > > > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > > > RouterOS > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090504/c9df78f5/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mikrotik mailing list > > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > > RouterOS > > _______________________________________________ > > Mikrotik mailing list > > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > > RouterOS > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090504/61da9cfd/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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