Good question...nice being sneaky. Hope to see an answer to that question.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Bill Prince < part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote: > It's not well documented. But when you set the type to "bridge" instead > of "ap bridge", it becomes a PTP link. The simple bridge type only allows > one client. > > Which brings up something that I was wondering about. > > If you set up a MT with, say 3 or 4 virtual APs all set for "bridge", with > different SSIDs, do you then get 3 or 4 PTP links? > > What would be the disadvantage of doing this? > > > > > Bill Prince > Skyline Broadband Service > (a division of Coastal Sierra) > 650-917-9279 > > > > Randy Cosby wrote: > >> Can you clarify how to use MT's "PtP"? What if you're pushing vlans >> across it? DHCP? >> >> >> Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ STN WDS -- Desktop PC >>> If this is the case, don't do it. Just switch into backhaul mode, >>> Tranzeo's PxP, MT's PtP or anything but WDS please. >>> >>> Can't do this if your AP WDS is ptmp. >>> >>> I do agree, backhaul as much as you can and save as much spectrum as you >>> can. The reason I brought this up recently was a "backhaul" made to a >>> repeater site giving me flak with the whole arp proxy problem. Kind of >>> hard >>> to work with 6 devices (5 CPE w/NAT plus customer router) with 1 MAC some >>> times. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Damian Wallace <dwall...@tranzeo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Your forgetting cycles for clients in this model, and the first come >>>> first serve nature of WiFi. If you just have two radios talking, don't >>>> use WDS, use a backhaul method. WDS leads to anger, anger leads to the >>>> dark side. >>>> >>>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ STN WDS -- Desktop PC >>>> If this is the case, don't do it. Just switch into backhaul mode, >>>> Tranzeo's PxP, MT's PtP or anything but WDS please. >>>> >>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <-wire-> PC X 1 >>>> 5 Megs for CPEs, 5 for PC. Best use of WDS. >>>> >>>> Of course, it's never just one, that's why you put in the repeater, to >>>> get the 4 houses beyond it. >>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <-wireless->CPE(s) >>>> 2.5 or less, shared. >>>> >>>> Better solution, more radios, but still cuts throughput >>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <-wire->AP<-->CPE(s) >>>> 5/5 >>>> >>>> But you could also do >>>> CPE(S) <--> AP -<-wire-> PtP <-->Ptp<--> AP<-->CPE(s) >>>> And not have any cut in throughput. >>>> >>>> And just for ug factor, What happens when the WDS is used "just this one >>>> time" :-) >>>> >>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <--> AP WDS<-->Feed >>>> | | | >>>> CPEs CPEs CPEs >>>> | >>>> AP WDS >>>> | >>>> AP WDS >>>> | >>>> CPES >>>> >>>> WDS used to be the poor mans repeater, but you can set up a pair of 5 >>>> GHz backhauls for 200 bucks now, and not have to deal with this. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:57 PM >>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Mikrotik] WDS - Found word(s) list error in the >>>> Text body >>>> >>>> >From my understanding... >>>> >>>> If you have >>>> >>>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ AP WDS ~ WLAN/LAPTOP >>>> >>>> The PC gets 5 megs >>>> >>>> If you have >>>> >>>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ STN WDS -- Desktop PC >>>> >>>> The PC gets 10 megs >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Robert Andrews >>>> <rob...@avantwireless.com>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Damian, >>>>> I'm unclear about what you wrote. Does WDS lose 1/2 bandwidth with >>>>> >>>>> >>>> 2 >>>> >>>> >>>>> WDS clients off one AP or, as I thought, with every set of repeaters >>>>> off one WDS AP? >>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>> >>>>> Damian Wallace wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> What happens inside WDS is worse than that. WDS is great for some >>>>>> Enterprise apps, where you want to get coverage to the boardroom and >>>>>> you don't care if the throughput isn't great and gets pulled down by >>>>>> the peer, just that you have coverage. WDS is also good for >>>>>> connecting two sites, BOTH of which don't have a lot of traffic. WDS >>>>>> slows all of the peers. >>>>>> >>>>>> The process is the same for Client and AP. This is gross >>>>>> simplification so you can nitpick the details but the idea is here. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Divide transmission cycles into equal groups of number of peers >>>>>> plus 1, for the radio itself. So if I have 1 peer, n=2. If I have 3 >>>>>> peers, then n=4. >>>>>> 2) Every 1/n cycles, I send to data from the radio, then I send the >>>>>> data to the other radios in sequence. Some traffic is also sent >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> broadcast. >>>> >>>> >>>>> If there is an error on a WDS transmission, all of the packets are >>>>>> usually resent. 3) The effect of WDS is to lower your throughput to >>>>>> 1/2^(n-1) under >>>>>> load. If I have a single peer, then my throughput is 1/2. With 3 >>>>>> peers, 1/8th. 3) WDS doesn't need the MAC address to route the RF >>>>>> traffic, so it is transparent, if it is WDS-AP to WDS-AP. >>>>>> WDS is a poorly designed hack that sort of works for many cases. But >>>>>> it has many tradeoffs, the key one being throughout. Backhaul >>>>>> modes >>>>>> and meshing protocols add smarts to the routing of the traffic, and >>>>>> that is why they generally are transparent and fast. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:44 AM >>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem - >>>>>> Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>>> >>>>>> Think of it like a HUB. All ports (APs) send and receive the same >>>>>> traffic. >>>>>> >>>>>> ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> WDS cuts bandwidth in half because it "syncs" with the AP. Not sure >>>>>>> is ap wds and station wds act the same though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/2/09, Chris Gotstein <ch...@uplogon.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I keep hearing that it cuts your bandwidth in half on the AP side. >>>>>>>> Seems everyone (vendors) i talk to tells me to stay away from it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But the ends do justify the means... WDS is how wireless should >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> worked in the first place.. Anyone have a reason that it wasn't >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> this way in the first place? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/01/2009 10:30 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yesh. I just went through this a few weeks ago; all remotely. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> hassle is that when you switch the Tranzeo to AP mode, you need to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> get into it again to enter the MAC address of the "partner". But >>>>>>> if you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then switch the MT into client mode, it will let you get back >>>>>>>>>> into the Tranzeo. Then finish up the MAC address rigmarole. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Finally, go back to the MT and switch it to WDS as previously >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> described. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Note that you may have to "hunt" for the SSID on the Tranzeo if >>>>>>> it's >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> never been an AP before. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bill Prince >>>>>>>>>> Skyline Broadband Service >>>>>>>>>> (a division of Coastal Sierra) >>>>>>>>>> 650-917-9279 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ryan Spott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can... if you are careful. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do the tranzeo first, and then hope everything connects when do >>>>>>>>>>> you setup the Mtik. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Aww damn I can't do it remotely can I? :( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/09, Robert Andrews <rob...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In WDS (not extended proprietary WDS like some vendors have), >>>>>>>>>>>>> BOTH devices are in AP mode. That's why >>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't see WDS on >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the tranzeo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> till you switch it to AP. Both devices will get the mac >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> address >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> other radio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2009 08:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MT AP and Tranzeo CPE - reverse that. I have WDS on my AP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Tranzeo: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Wireless Settings -> Wireless Mode: Access Point 2. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. WDS (this is now visible) 4. Enter AP MAC Address 1 (this would >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the MAC address of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ie: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0000006300F6) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Mikrotik (no laughing all you CLI junkies, I can kick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butt on a Cisco... just not an Mtik) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Interface 2. Click >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Plus button and choose WDS 3. Under the WDS tab of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window that pops up choose the master interface >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appropriately. >>>> >>>> >>>>> 4. Under the WDS tab of the window that pops up enter the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> address >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo in 00:00:00 format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add this new interface to the bridge group that your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> interface is in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That should be it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TR6 I think. I know it has an external 24dbi grid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, D. Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What model Tranzeo are you running? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I do WDS? Where is the option? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do WDS mode. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this running on 2 poor-mans-repeaters right now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My tranzeo? There is no "bridge mode" so I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you're referring to. It is in infrastructure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't do WDS/PxP mode >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Tranzeo AP (my AP is Mikrotik). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Carl A jeptha < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wispli...@airnet.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This Tranzeo is in bridge mode????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206 Office Hours: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never used any agents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to document these customers behind this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo CPE (it's a small repeater) and the arp proxy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes it one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how the Dude can give me the correct MAC if >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a device with the right IP? It obviously isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple ARP. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carl A jeptha < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wispli...@airnet.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have found that the Dude Server has no problem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tranzeo's in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode. The "Agent" on the Ap's has a problem with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tranzeo's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Router mode. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ext 206 Office Hours: 9:00am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 5:00pm skype cajeptha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDS mode or PTP mode (PxP mode on wireless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> requires >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well. Does not work with any other AP. Stupid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is odd to me is that Ubnt AirOS (and obviously >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPEs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik APs can do this. Any idea why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Bill Prince< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's SOP in 802.11. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To not obfuscate the MAC addresses behind a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo, you need to turn on PTP mode and/or use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDS. >>>> >>>> >>>>> The key is "transparent bridge", and box-stock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11 devices do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent bridge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skyline Broadband Service (a division of Coastal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sierra) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 650-917-9279 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo has a problem with proxy arp - everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind it is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Tranzeo. Might be related. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/09, Richard Hatherill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jr.<ri...@callrich.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could never get dude to work properly past a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular backhaul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have 10 Mikrotik links on the other side of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tr5a24 bridge / backhaul. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just replaced the tr5a24's with a mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backhaul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> weeks ago, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All 10 of the Mikrotik boxes on the other side >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 100% >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reporting >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before the replacement 1-5 of the mik boxes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> up/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all through the day. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now all is well. Nothing down in 2 weeks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich Hatherill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cnywireless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Carl A jeptha"<wispli...@airnet.ca> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Mikrotik discussions"< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have restarted my DUDE program for monitoring >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now seem to have a new issue with Tranzeo's. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the Dude agent in a subnet does a scan for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (discovery) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will attach all the tranzeo mac addresses to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tranzeo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> radio???? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>> ch...@uplogon.com >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >>>>>> scrubbed... >>>>>> URL: >>>>>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091202/e5 >>>>>> ee2 >>>>>> 26e/attachment.html> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ 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