-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We are using the power supplies at mini-box.com to power the atom's directly off of 12-13Vdc and since switching have not had a failure.
On 03/07/2010 08:18 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > > Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the PC > and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on electric > usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick. > > Scottie > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> > Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> > Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:02:39 -0700 > >> I was not saying you needed to spend $1,500 on a good router. I was >> simply suggesting that you spend $400-$500 to get something that will >> last you 3-5 years compared with spending $250 and getting to replace it >> (growth, not as good quality, etc.). It was just a suggestion. >> >> Even our main edge router is a Mikrotik (not our BGP router, but the >> next in line). It's running on an Intel Core board with two Intel GigE >> ports. It moves 400Mbps+ during the day, and has been up for 166 days as >> of right now. It has 10 queues, and at least 50 firewall rules. CPU is >> never above 12%. Total cost on this box was less than $1,000 and that >> was a year ago. >> >> (We upgrade this particular router about every year, and move the "old" >> router into the "backup" position in the rack. Then if something ever >> dies, we just move two cables and we are back up and running.... but in >> 6+ years of having this setup, we have never had to use the backup). >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Scottie Arnett wrote: >>> Understood Travis, >>> >>> My whole escapade into this has resulted from what happened today. I may be >>> on the wrong track...and it maybe would have fried a routerboard also. So, >>> here is my story.... >>> >>> The weather here was much warmer than normal today. I was trimming some >>> trees and one "kicked back" and took out the high powered electrical lines >>> close to my house(1st JINX of the day). I called the electric company to >>> fix what I screwed up. Ok, I live in a remote area, so I need a cell phone >>> booster to pick up cell signals(I do not have a land line phone). No power, >>> no booster! Above and behold, a transformer blew about 1/2 mile from my NOC >>> at about the same time, say 20 minutes after, and 30 miles away. I do not >>> get the page. >>> >>> 2 hours later, the electric company get my power back on and my cell goes >>> crazy! I call my partner to go check what is wrong at the NOC. He goes to >>> the NOC and everything is up except the X86 doing all the routing. Hits >>> power button, gets those most wonderful beeps. Goes on to do the regular PC >>> troubleshooting(we are a PC repair shop also, been doing it over 20 years) >>> and no good. Fried motherboard. >>> >>> So, we did not have a standby, I scramble into my basement which is a PC >>> Ancestry museum and find an almost exact replacement. I drive the 30 miles >>> swap everything into the exact same locations, get a working Tik. >>> >>> My customers were down over four hours. That is in part to my under-sight. >>> I just want to make sure it does not happen again. >>> >>> I will not get into the being able to afford $1500 PC routers, but you have >>> multitude more customers than we do, and I am in an area that is serviced >>> by a rural co-op that gets tons of funding from uncle Sam...should be >>> enough said as far as competition goes. >>> >>> Scottie >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>> From: Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> >>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >>> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:26:19 -0700 >>> >>> >>>> If you spend more than $250, maybe you wouldn't have to have so many >>>> spares.... :) >>>> >>>> We've never had a single X86 based MT router fail in the field. Ever. I >>>> have over 50 of them running (some for over 4 years). Yet we just had an >>>> RB333 fail and die (and take out an ethernet port on the switch along >>>> with it). It had only been in production for 9 months. >>>> >>>> If you spend the money up front, it saves you money in the long run... >>>> less downtime, less labor, etc. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> Microserv >>>> >>>> Scottie Arnett wrote: >>>> >>>>> Below: "I do some filters with L7." No, it is a full P4. I forgot to >>>>> mention a few things that come to mind. I am using it as DNS server and >>>>> redirecting(via NAT) all DNS activity through the MT to use the MT DNS >>>>> cache. I am not using web proxy. At the moment it has a Prizm card for >>>>> wireless customers(10 total), but I am getting rid of that and going to a >>>>> BulletM2HP. I am needing 1 of the 4 ports for this. >>>>> >>>>> I know several responded before Josh on this and he other list, so I will >>>>> try to address the others. I would like to keep these below $250. I can >>>>> buy regular x86 much more powerful than this for less money. The reason >>>>> for trying to go to routerboards is to have standbys ready to go with >>>>> minimal configuration after copying configs over and setting them up. The >>>>> other reason is to get rid of the mechanical component of the hard >>>>> drive...a mistake I made from the beginning. The last reason is to cover >>>>> all the separate things that can go wrong in an X86 compared to a >>>>> routerboard. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all the replies and I am evaluating all of them. >>>>> >>>>> Scottie >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>>>> From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:01:23 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Are there layer 7 rules or is that a celeron CPU? That seems super high >>>>>> to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> The 493ah can do 10 megs I'm sure. The rules seem to be the cause of >>>>>> that CPU usage so I would try to look into that first. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/6/10, Scottie Arnett <sarn...@info-ed.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a routerboard. >>>>>>> My >>>>>>> current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 Mbit, >>>>>>> soon >>>>>>> to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple >>>>>>> queues. I >>>>>>> do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage >>>>>>> averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there routerboards available that can handle what I have running >>>>>>> now and >>>>>>> have some room for growth in the future? I need at least 4 Ethernet >>>>>>> ports >>>>>>> and do not need wireless at all. Suggestions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Scottie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>>>>>> $30.00/mth. >>>>>>> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting >>>>>> 937-552-2340 end_of_the_skype_highlighting >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>>> continue that counts." >>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>> --- >>>>>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>>>> $30.00/mth. >>>>> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100306/78bd6bed/attachment.html> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> --- >>>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>> $30.00/mth. >>> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100306/fc8ea5e3/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> --- >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> >> > > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. > Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLk9ZFAAoJEC+8HUjSuDOsGwMH/0WKKXYRLYI6jc3VSFdfKuMu 0DshrFb8GaRqdXTXOjL1wJXNcqAxQlNFln4T7yuPM8Hxgi/LQrpcjvNbhsccbnPd Egj+2GOp400nTEV4bdVfeae+sJq5DTMVfbXIlql9YTja+16aAXYZ57rTg1nfTLuR TqHuar1qi4x6vo4X1iSeQbcWmGheoQgB8WhRKNJsEoIJ0ynJzKJY1FeNBpjo0Ql0 kjdzfCHR9OjGuCgcjs5yQQh2EAv4YNfyHVpaTPghenmofMFe/1GEBp6ZspR7UcR/ trj4LYNBZD7uHn6ejfub2W7S51sMtmvcXym/AEDJKd1Q5vR2B/Woed/ytB3pZUE= =tB9Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
