New versions for multi core/processors are good like was said. I'm still in 3.13. 3.14 to 18 I think were the buggy ones.
On 3/7/10, Robert Andrews <rob...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > We are using the power supplies at mini-box.com to power the atom's > directly off of 12-13Vdc and since switching have not had a failure. > > On 03/07/2010 08:18 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: >> >> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the >> PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on >> electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick. >> >> Scottie >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> >> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:02:39 -0700 >> >>> I was not saying you needed to spend $1,500 on a good router. I was >>> simply suggesting that you spend $400-$500 to get something that will >>> last you 3-5 years compared with spending $250 and getting to replace it >>> (growth, not as good quality, etc.). It was just a suggestion. >>> >>> Even our main edge router is a Mikrotik (not our BGP router, but the >>> next in line). It's running on an Intel Core board with two Intel GigE >>> ports. It moves 400Mbps+ during the day, and has been up for 166 days as >>> of right now. It has 10 queues, and at least 50 firewall rules. CPU is >>> never above 12%. Total cost on this box was less than $1,000 and that >>> was a year ago. >>> >>> (We upgrade this particular router about every year, and move the "old" >>> router into the "backup" position in the rack. Then if something ever >>> dies, we just move two cables and we are back up and running.... but in >>> 6+ years of having this setup, we have never had to use the backup). >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Scottie Arnett wrote: >>>> Understood Travis, >>>> >>>> My whole escapade into this has resulted from what happened today. I may >>>> be on the wrong track...and it maybe would have fried a routerboard >>>> also. So, here is my story.... >>>> >>>> The weather here was much warmer than normal today. I was trimming some >>>> trees and one "kicked back" and took out the high powered electrical >>>> lines close to my house(1st JINX of the day). I called the electric >>>> company to fix what I screwed up. Ok, I live in a remote area, so I need >>>> a cell phone booster to pick up cell signals(I do not have a land line >>>> phone). No power, no booster! Above and behold, a transformer blew about >>>> 1/2 mile from my NOC at about the same time, say 20 minutes after, and >>>> 30 miles away. I do not get the page. >>>> >>>> 2 hours later, the electric company get my power back on and my cell >>>> goes crazy! I call my partner to go check what is wrong at the NOC. He >>>> goes to the NOC and everything is up except the X86 doing all the >>>> routing. Hits power button, gets those most wonderful beeps. Goes on to >>>> do the regular PC troubleshooting(we are a PC repair shop also, been >>>> doing it over 20 years) and no good. Fried motherboard. >>>> >>>> So, we did not have a standby, I scramble into my basement which is a PC >>>> Ancestry museum and find an almost exact replacement. I drive the 30 >>>> miles swap everything into the exact same locations, get a working Tik. >>>> >>>> My customers were down over four hours. That is in part to my >>>> under-sight. I just want to make sure it does not happen again. >>>> >>>> I will not get into the being able to afford $1500 PC routers, but you >>>> have multitude more customers than we do, and I am in an area that is >>>> serviced by a rural co-op that gets tons of funding from uncle >>>> Sam...should be enough said as far as competition goes. >>>> >>>> Scottie >>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>>> From: Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> >>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >>>> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:26:19 -0700 >>>> >>>> >>>>> If you spend more than $250, maybe you wouldn't have to have so many >>>>> spares.... :) >>>>> >>>>> We've never had a single X86 based MT router fail in the field. Ever. I >>>>> >>>>> have over 50 of them running (some for over 4 years). Yet we just had >>>>> an >>>>> RB333 fail and die (and take out an ethernet port on the switch along >>>>> with it). It had only been in production for 9 months. >>>>> >>>>> If you spend the money up front, it saves you money in the long run... >>>>> less downtime, less labor, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> Microserv >>>>> >>>>> Scottie Arnett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Below: "I do some filters with L7." No, it is a full P4. I forgot to >>>>>> mention a few things that come to mind. I am using it as DNS server >>>>>> and redirecting(via NAT) all DNS activity through the MT to use the MT >>>>>> DNS cache. I am not using web proxy. At the moment it has a Prizm card >>>>>> for wireless customers(10 total), but I am getting rid of that and >>>>>> going to a BulletM2HP. I am needing 1 of the 4 ports for this. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know several responded before Josh on this and he other list, so I >>>>>> will try to address the others. I would like to keep these below $250. >>>>>> I can buy regular x86 much more powerful than this for less money. The >>>>>> reason for trying to go to routerboards is to have standbys ready to >>>>>> go with minimal configuration after copying configs over and setting >>>>>> them up. The other reason is to get rid of the mechanical component of >>>>>> the hard drive...a mistake I made from the beginning. The last reason >>>>>> is to cover all the separate things that can go wrong in an X86 >>>>>> compared to a routerboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for all the replies and I am evaluating all of them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Scottie >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>>>>> From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com> >>>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:01:23 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there layer 7 rules or is that a celeron CPU? That seems super >>>>>>> high to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The 493ah can do 10 megs I'm sure. The rules seem to be the cause of >>>>>>> that CPU usage so I would try to look into that first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/6/10, Scottie Arnett <sarn...@info-ed.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am thinking about replacing my X86 PC running MT with a >>>>>>>> routerboard. My >>>>>>>> current setup is a P4 1.7Ghz with 256 Meg Ram. I am routing 7.5 >>>>>>>> Mbit, soon >>>>>>>> to be 10 Mbit. I have 183 filter rules, 76 Mangles, and 215 Simple >>>>>>>> queues. I >>>>>>>> do some filters with L7 and I have no DHCP server running. CPU usage >>>>>>>> averages %20 - %25 and Mem averages around 50 Meg. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there routerboards available that can handle what I have running >>>>>>>> now and >>>>>>>> have some room for growth in the future? I need at least 4 Ethernet >>>>>>>> ports >>>>>>>> and do not need wireless at all. Suggestions? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Scottie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>>>>>>> $30.00/mth. >>>>>>>> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting >>>>>>> 937-552-2340 end_of_the_skype_highlighting >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>>>> continue that counts." >>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>>>>> $30.00/mth. >>>>>> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100306/78bd6bed/attachment.html> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> --- >>>>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >>>> $30.00/mth. >>>> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100306/fc8ea5e3/attachment.html> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> --- >>> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >>> >>> >> >> >> Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >> $30.00/mth. >> Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >> _______________________________________________ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLk9ZFAAoJEC+8HUjSuDOsGwMH/0WKKXYRLYI6jc3VSFdfKuMu > 0DshrFb8GaRqdXTXOjL1wJXNcqAxQlNFln4T7yuPM8Hxgi/LQrpcjvNbhsccbnPd > Egj+2GOp400nTEV4bdVfeae+sJq5DTMVfbXIlql9YTja+16aAXYZ57rTg1nfTLuR > TqHuar1qi4x6vo4X1iSeQbcWmGheoQgB8WhRKNJsEoIJ0ynJzKJY1FeNBpjo0Ql0 > kjdzfCHR9OjGuCgcjs5yQQh2EAv4YNfyHVpaTPghenmofMFe/1GEBp6ZspR7UcR/ > trj4LYNBZD7uHn6ejfub2W7S51sMtmvcXym/AEDJKd1Q5vR2B/Woed/ytB3pZUE= > =tB9Y > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill _______________________________________________ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
