On 2017-05-15 Mon 02:23, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >On 2017-05-15 Mon 01:31, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> >2) Notion of transactions
> >> >
> >> >Often, more patches are installed at once, with the single `syspatch`
> >> >command. One might want to be able to revert all those patches at once
> >> >as well. A notion of transactions could be made by adding a notion
> >> >of transactions, but that would add more unnecessary complexity.
> >> >
> >> >It can be solved simpler way, by adding the line with the list of
> >> >patches applied, e.g.
> >> >
> >> >  # syspatch
> >> >  Installing patch 005_pf_src_tracking
> >> >  Get/Verify syspatch61-006_libssl.tgz 100% |*************|  2276 KB    
> >> > 00:04
> >> >  Installing patch 006_libssl
> >> >  Get/Verify syspatch61-007_freetyp... 100% |*************|   732 KB    
> >> > 00:01
> >> >  Installing patch 007_freetype
> >> >  Missing set, skipping patch 007_freetype
> >> >  Patches applied: 5,6
> >> >
> >> >and by adding support for -r optional argument, which could be comma 
> >> >separated
> >> >patch number list.
> >> 
> >> That is incorrect.
> >> 
> >> The usage situations are no patches, or all of the patches, or a
> >> subset and you are about to install to get more /all of them.  You
> >> don't get to choose which you want, unless all newer ones are ripped out 
> >> also.
> >> 
> >> We don't manage dependencies.
> >> 
> >> This tooling is designed to make errata handling EASY FOR US.  Otherwise,
> >> we would not bother building this service.
> >> 
> >
> >Here i agree.
> >
> >If not providing easy ability to revert arbitrary list of patches, what about
> >handle "transactions" or "syspatch sessions" or "patchsets" internally:
> >
> >After successful application of patch(es), create 
> >/var/syspatch/patchset.$TIMESTAMP
> >with list of applied patches (line by line).
> >
> >Reverting the last patchset would be reverting the patches from the last
> >patchset file, and removing that file.
> 
> You haven't justified need.
> 
> They are either installed, or not, and existence of files and directories
> already indicates the patchlevel.
> 

I think the justification is:

Why do i even need to revert a patch? Only because something got broken
by the last syspatch command, that may have applied multiple patches.
I might not now which patch caused the problem.

If the problematic patch was not the last one from the set,
reverting with -r does not help, because it reverts single last patch only.

Well, applying `syspatch -r` repeatedly is a sort of solution as well.

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