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> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:15:03PM +0200, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> > > I have to ask also, is the audio quality that comes out the speakers (in
> > > general) good enough to learn the proper sounds? Every device I have
> > > seems to have wildly varying qualities and characteristics.
> > > For example, (OK, not OpenBSD but somewhat relevant) if I wanted to
> > > listen to the speech coming out of Google Translate, would a native
> > > speaker of say Spanish, German or Russian consider the sounds "proper"?
> > 
> > What a bizarre question.  Listen to English dialog from your speaker
> > setup.  Does it sound like "proper" English?  Anything that plays
> > music in reasonable quality--so *anything*, really--will more than
> > do for human speech.
> 
> Actually, despite seeming like a bizarre question, which seems to be
> true, it is not.
> One of the more difficult parts of learning to speak and hear a new
> language consists of adding the new neural pathways to actually be able
> to stop translating the new languages sounds into the closest English
> sounds. As we originally learn a language, our brains develop the
> ability to "only" be able to hear the native sounds of that language
> only. Our brains, etc. conveniently move what we hear or speak to the
> closest English sounds. This prevents us from hearing the new speech
> sounds at first until we train our brain to hear and make the brand new
> sounds. So asking only a native speaker if the sounds are proper or not
> is the only way to really be sure. Although I can vouch for quality in
> English, I simply do not, yet, have the ability to judge new sounds.
> Only a native speaker of that language can do this task.
> 
> IMHO, I do think this is a reasonable question to ask. There are some
> languages with some very unusual sounds.
> 
> As far as music, I can definitely hear that European played classical
> music tends to sound better than American played (Same piece).
> I have no idea what is different, but I can hear it.
> 
> Chris Bennett
> 
> 

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