but Theo your butt is magical :( You do it no justice. I have a microwave that is a bit glitchy .....
Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 21 October 2020 07:42, Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote: > Stuart Longland stua...@longlandclan.id.au wrote: > > > On 21/10/20 9:55 am, Lee Nelson wrote: > > > > > > Alternatively use a single nic with vlans, and break out to separate > > > > ports on a managed switch. > > > > > > Yes, that could work too, but this is one side of a pfsync/carp > > > redundant firewall setup, so I want to keep it as simple as possible. > > > > Silly question, what hardware are the USB NICs plugging into? > > USB trades off determinism for hot-pluggability, and it seems a > > firewall, you absolutely do want an interface to appear in a specific > > location. I'd be looking at something that plugs into the system > > peripheral bus somehow (PCIe, PCI, ISA, … etc). > > Oh come on, you know the answer before you ask it. > > Using cheap hardware and expecting free software developers to > pull magic out of their ass to make it solve unsolveable problems, and > produce a result as too as state of the art expensive hardware --- or > even cheaper hardware --- with DEDICATED PORTS -- it is madness. We > can't do it. And we said so. > > And Lee gets it. But do the rest of the thread participants? > > I think it's fine for us as a community to humour the attempt for a bit, > but THEN THE DISCUSSION MIGHT AS WELL END, as the consequences of the > choice ARE WHAT THEY ARE. > > You get what you paid for. And we (OpenBSD) played no part in the > decision or the consequences, hotplug is what it is. > > Can we end this discussion?
