Thomas Frohwein <tfrohw...@fastmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:56:31PM -0400, Andre Smagin wrote:
> > Good day.
> > 
> > I am looking for a hardware advice.
> > I don't upgrade my desktop very often - last one was about ten
> > years ago (AMD FX-8350 CPU), which I recently made my home server
> > running -current, no issues. Now I am looking for a new desktop that
> > will last another ten years, hence the question: if I buy the latest
> > available AMD chipset (X570 I think) and Ryzen 9 CPU - are there any
> > current issues with using it for OpenBSD desktop? I would like to
> > overkill it with the choice of hardware now, so I don't have to worry
> > about it for a while.
> 
> If you need audio, that might be a barrier to recent AMD CPUs:
> 
> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=161221378203609&w=2
> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=160112047222899&w=2
> 
> Earlier Ryzen CPUs worked after disabling MSI for azalia(4), but it
> seems to not be a solution anymore with later models.
> 
> For desktop, Ryzen 2xxx CPUs seem to be the last ones without the audio
> limitations. I ran a Ryzen 7-2700 for a while.
> 
As a side note, I learned that one can also use an external USB audio
card to get audio working smoothly.

> If you plan to use GPU acceleration, amdgpu(4) still seems to run into
> poorly predictable "freezes" where the screen stops updating. I most
> recently experienced this a week or two ago on the Thinkpad X395. This
> is probably still an issue with dedicated GPUs, too. Using an AMD
> Radeon card type Northern Island or older would be the only solution I
> can think of, but that is > 10 year old hardware and doesn't support
> newer OpenGL or Vulkan.
> 
> These issues together are the reason why I personally ended up back on
> Intel hardware. If your goal of "overkill with choice of hardware now"
> includes using audio and GPU acceleration including newer APIs, a 10th
> or 11th gen Intel CPU may be the best option.
> 
> Of course, if you don't use audio and don't need GPU acceleration, then
> all these points are moot and you could just get the most powerful
> Ryzen 9 you can afford. (Note you may not get a lot of return on
> investment for core counts > 8.)
> > 
> > I am ten years out of touch with hardware development progress, so will
> > appreciate any input you may have.
> > 
> > --
> > Andre
> > 
> 

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