Thomas Frohwein <tfrohw...@fastmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:56:31PM -0400, Andre Smagin wrote: > > Good day. > > > > I am looking for a hardware advice. > > I don't upgrade my desktop very often - last one was about ten > > years ago (AMD FX-8350 CPU), which I recently made my home server > > running -current, no issues. Now I am looking for a new desktop that > > will last another ten years, hence the question: if I buy the latest > > available AMD chipset (X570 I think) and Ryzen 9 CPU - are there any > > current issues with using it for OpenBSD desktop? I would like to > > overkill it with the choice of hardware now, so I don't have to worry > > about it for a while. > > If you need audio, that might be a barrier to recent AMD CPUs: > > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=161221378203609&w=2 > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=160112047222899&w=2 > > Earlier Ryzen CPUs worked after disabling MSI for azalia(4), but it > seems to not be a solution anymore with later models. > > For desktop, Ryzen 2xxx CPUs seem to be the last ones without the audio > limitations. I ran a Ryzen 7-2700 for a while. > As a side note, I learned that one can also use an external USB audio card to get audio working smoothly.
> If you plan to use GPU acceleration, amdgpu(4) still seems to run into > poorly predictable "freezes" where the screen stops updating. I most > recently experienced this a week or two ago on the Thinkpad X395. This > is probably still an issue with dedicated GPUs, too. Using an AMD > Radeon card type Northern Island or older would be the only solution I > can think of, but that is > 10 year old hardware and doesn't support > newer OpenGL or Vulkan. > > These issues together are the reason why I personally ended up back on > Intel hardware. If your goal of "overkill with choice of hardware now" > includes using audio and GPU acceleration including newer APIs, a 10th > or 11th gen Intel CPU may be the best option. > > Of course, if you don't use audio and don't need GPU acceleration, then > all these points are moot and you could just get the most powerful > Ryzen 9 you can afford. (Note you may not get a lot of return on > investment for core counts > 8.) > > > > I am ten years out of touch with hardware development progress, so will > > appreciate any input you may have. > > > > -- > > Andre > > >