Thomas Frohwein <tfrohw...@fastmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 12:06:39PM +0000, Ali Farzanrad wrote: > > Ali Farzanrad <ali_farzan...@riseup.net> wrote: > > > Alexandre Ratchov <a...@caoua.org> wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 09:04:29PM +0000, Ali Farzanrad wrote: > > > > > Alexandre Ratchov <a...@caoua.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 04:30:52PM +0000, Ali Farzanrad wrote: > > [...] > > > > I have another problem here. My USB keyboard works great in BOOTX64.EFI > > > but will not work on kernel config. > > > > > > I created /etc/bsd.re-config file and rebooted my system twice to > > > disable azalia and then checked if it is disabled using config(8) and > > > dmesg(8). > > > > > > Even when azalia is disabled my system gets sudden reboots. > > > First sudden reboot was just after playing a music; but next 2 reboots > > > was happened without playing anything. > > > > > > > Then, just do your regular stuff and see if the system reboots. > > > > I tested again with my patch. When azalia is disabled, it suddenly > > reboots after few minutes, without playing anything. When azalia is > > enabled, it lives. > > > > This looks to me like you are chasing down a new rabbit hole every time > I open one of your emails. I'd suggest you take a step back from all > the stuff you seem to be trying without having a firm grasp on how to > observe or report reproducibility. Have you tried out sthen@'s advice > to check old kernels + snapshots[1]? I may have missed your response to > this. You wrote that you rarely got the issue prior 17-May-2024? If > that *is correct*, then you should be able to bisect using the snapshot > archive around what date things change.
Actually I see some kind of sudden reboots for such a long time (maybe since the time I have this mini pc) which happen almost certainly on every boot after a long shutdown! It is funny that my Windows 11 don't get those reboots; so I usually use Windows for an hour, then reboot to OpenBSD without facing those sudden reboots. Anyway, I tested this snapshot for few days: https://ftp.hostserver.de/archive/2024-05-20-0105 I only get sudden reboots after a long shutdown (for example boot after 3 hours off); however using the next snapshot: https://ftp.hostserver.de/archive/2024-05-21-0105 I saw this other kind of sudden reboots which might happen after every boot/reboot (not just after a long shutdown). > I am highlighting *is correct* above because your issue seems to be > unpredictable enough that a few minutes of testing don't mean anything. > I suggest you try to find a *clear difference*, meaning between a > snapshot where no reboot happens for ideally a whole day of use, and > the next one where it clearly happens very quickly (and reproducible > at least a second or third time). I couldn't find a snapshot without any sudden reboot at all. > Your reports also make me wonder how much customization you are > running. You've mentioned at least compiling custom kernels and > setting bsd.re-config. It's easy to find yourself in virtually > unsolvable scenarios by configuring too much. It might be best to try > a clean install, ideally without activating xenodm/X11. The bsd.re-config file was just for disabling azalia. I have FDE using softraid level C without swap and /tmp mounted as mfs. I don't think that I configured too much. Anyway, I also tested those snapshots on a clean install on a single partition outside softraid and again without swap (I don't like swap); I see similar results. I also disabled xenodm/X11 and see my OpenBSD lived for more than an hour, then I started xenodm and it suddenly rebooted in less than 3 minutes. I didn't test OpenBSD without xenodm/X11 much, because I need them; that's why I disabled amdgpu and placed it in my bsd.re-config file. Since then (~3 days) I see no single sudden reboot at all (not even after a long shutdown). I'm currenly on latest snapshot with amdgpu disabled. Alexandre Ratchov <a...@caoua.org> wrote: > On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 09:13:56AM +0000, Ali Farzanrad wrote: > > > > Even when azalia is disabled my system gets sudden reboots. > > First sudden reboot was just after playing a music; but next 2 reboots > > was happened without playing anything. > > > > This suggests the reboots are not directly caused by the azalia's msi > vs old-style interrupts. > > I'd suggest that you find and old enough snapshot (or release) that > used to work reliably on this machine and make sure it still works > reliably with the old software version. Not just an hour, use it few > days for real work. As I said above, I couldn't find such reliable snapshot. I only get reliably using disabled amdgpu, or (I didn't test this much) disabled xenodm/X11. > This would confirm that the hardware is still OK. I used my Windows 11 a lot and never seen any sudden reboot in Windows at all; so I think maybe it is not a hardware issue, but amdgpu issue. > Take few quick notes > of what devices are involved, how the machine is used, etc. Save the > dmesg. Most of the time I never do anything at all. Simple xterm terminal with tmux and pkg_add / pkg_check or similar tools. I included my dmesg in my first email: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=171646059328579&w=2 > If this isn't a hardware problem, then grab a new snapshot and try to > understand what changed, compare the dmesg, compare the usage pattern > etc. Possibly start bissecting the kernel until you find the change > that causes the reboots. The most reliable test that I found, is to shutdown my pc for a while then boot and run xenodm/X11. Unfortunately I need my pc, so I only could do such tests once / twice a day.
