In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Williams writes:
> 
> I block brute force attacks using PF.  They get a small set of attempts 
> before they are blocked.  Very trivial.
> 
> pass in on $ext_if proto tcp to $ext_if port ssh flags S/SA \
>         keep state (max-src-conn-rate 5/40, overload <scanners>)
> block in log on $ext_if proto tcp from <scanners> to $ext_if port ssh

Trivial, perhaps... but an excellent example of how using tables
to manage possible intrussion attempts.  A very good one!

> Voilla, I still have root access, with a hard to guess password, and 
> people trying to brute force me are blocked.  Of course, there could be 
> a "distributed" brute force attack... but how paranoid do you want to get??

A distributed brute force attack against your set up is, at best,
very challenging.  This attack would be possible only if you are
the target of a highly talented security expert.  No one is so
paranoid to believe that a distributed attack able to pass your
protection will happen, though.

> I also rely on having the abiltiy to install/upgrade remotly and ssh 
> into the system post install.  With root access blocked off, well...kind 
> of hard!

I believe I missed the point here.  On an upgrade user accounts should
not be lost.  A fresh install usually requires a console (e.g., a port
server connected to the first serial port on the computer) and a special
firmware on the device (something like the ComBIOS on the soekris
communication computers, or the extended BIOS on the Dell PowerEdges
or Siemens Nixdorf PCD-5T computers).  In this case, root access
from the console should not be a problem at all.

I am curious... how can OpenBSD be remotely installed on a computer
without a setup like that one?  How can the installer be run remotely
without a device that the operating system calls "console"?

I usually copy the installation sets of OpenBSD to a bootable CF on
my soekris before making a fresh install (I usually avoid upgrades).
Even in this case, I need something to use as a console (e.g., a serial
cable that connects the soekris computer to a serial port on a machine
that can be accessed by ssh).

Just curious!

Igor.

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