> At 01:58 PM 10/25/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > Certainly! That is not the point, however. The point is that users of 
> > OTHER
> > > 'application domains' have better security with a VM (or one of the other
> > > approaches discussed) because THEIR environment has no ability to interact
> >
> >                                                       ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >How do you know these 'VM' enviroments provide that gaurantee?  You
> >don't.  You don't know, and you are not even qualified in the least
> >to judge if they are able to gaurantee that.
> 
> There are no guarantees in this world, .. I can just talk about experience. 

You're just a sysadm.  So stop making stuff up.

> No environment provides a guarantee, even OBSD. Track record and experience 
> are indicators of quality, not statements.

You're also a sysadm who refuses to read a paper written by a google
researcher, who's team found massive bugs in every VM.

My suspicion is you're an old dog who can't learn new tricks anymore.

You sure like to talk about stuff you don't know anything about.

Perhaps you'll just leave us alone?

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