On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Richard Stallman wrote:

>    You've apparently been reading a very different set of responses from
>    the ones I've read.  AFAICT from their messages, most of the people
>    responding here to this issue agree with me.
>
>Most of the people responding here, yes, but that doesn't
>mean _most people_ would see it that way.

Not necessarily, but since you've provided no evidence whatsoever that
anyone other than FSFers agrees with you the way to bet is that the
general public would mostly agree with me.  The group participating here
is a lot more diverse than just the FSF.

>    >                       Many of the people on this list were told that
>    >I want OpenBSD to "erect barriers against" installing non-free
>    >programs.
>
>    That's the only plausible conclusion I can draw from your own words.
>
>I would not call this a "barrier against installing" those programs.

I'm sure you wouldn't, but it is one nonetheless.

>    AFAICT from your messages, the absolute minimum that would satisfy you
>    is for OpenBSD to never mention anywhere, in any manner (except perhaps
>    a negative one), anything which is non-free (by your definition).
>
>That's a little more than my standard.  Many applications talk
>about some non-free programs in passing.  I don't object to that.
>But you see what _kind_ of thing I'm concerned about.
>
>    Since this would require explicitly rejecting any proposed addition to
>    the ports collection which would install something which is 'non-free',
>
>Yes.
>
>    you do require erecting barriers.
>
>I would not call this a "barrier".  But, whatever we call it, at
>least you understand concretely what I mean.

It's something which makes it harder for the user to install a
'non-free' program than it is for him to install a 'free' program.
That's the essence of a barrier.  Claiming anything else is, at best,
weasel-wording.

>One reason I do not want to call this a "barrier" is that it suggests
>other things.  Many people thought I objected to the general capability
>of the ports system to install any program.  That misunderstanding
>seems to come words like "barrier".

        Dave

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Dave Anderson
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