On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:15:50AM +0100, Igor Sobrado wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Otto Moerbeek <o...@drijf.net> wrote:
> >
> > There are two models. I have the 10" model. It really has a 10"
> > screen, but indeed it runs at 800MHz. Also, while a little video hole
> > is there, the camera hardware seems to be absent or not connected. The
> > 8.9" version does have a working camera. Dmesg of my machine below.
> 
> I had been considering buying one of these laptops in the last months.
>  These machines are interesting, and I had been looking at them since
> they were available a year ago.  However, these machines are expensive
> so I would prefer not making a mistake here, as buying one will be
> challenging to me.  It is nice to know what problems they have before
> making a decision.  The information you are providing about
> real/recommended price and hardware weaknesses is very useful.

One other thing I noticed is that the WiFI antenna is weak. 
> 
> However, I would like to ask a question about its firmware.  May these
> laptops run a generic PMON2000 firmware or do they need a customized
> one?  It would be nice being able to track the latest releases of the
> firmware developed by Opsycon instead of trusting the one provided by
> Lemote will be maintained for years on this laptop model (i.e., it
> would be nice being able to run the 3.x releases).

They are using a modified pmon, Source is open. See
http://olph.gdium.com/wiki/doku.php/manual:pmon_full


I don't expect a genuine pmon to work without modification. Also, we
plan to have our own small bootloader, one that reads ffs and so can
boot from the bsd root device instead of a bsd stored on a linux ext2
fs. In the end there will only be a small ext2/fat/iso partition
needed to bootstrap. BTW, the pmon on the Yeeloong seems to be very
buggy wrt fat access. 

Pmon is pretty limited and the menu they provide hurts more than it
helps: kernel symbol info and bootpath info is not available if the
menu is used, only if the boot command is entered directly on the pmon
prompt. 

So it might be interesting to have a better pmon, but otoh, the goal
is to leave the boot environmet asap and get bsd running, of course. I
rather spend time working on the interesting side of things. 

        -Otto

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