On Fri, 6 Jan 2017, Gilles Chehade wrote:

I tried to use 'alpine' on OpenBSD 6.0 with the standard SMTPD therein.

A pkg_add'ed 'alpine' just sits there trying and trying until you go into

        Main-Menu -> Setup -> Config

and change the SMTP server to 'localhost'. I have never had to do that
in my life with 'alpine' on any other system that has used sendmail or
postfix.

First time someone reports this, but if you have to setup 'localhost' it
means that somehow the local enqueuer (aka sendmail) didn't work and its
likely related to missing compat code.

I think somebody noticed it with a very early version of OpenSMTPD, like in 2010. But it obviously no exposure.

We've done compat code in the past to make some old MUAs work out of the
box, I'm not aware of tweaks required with modern MUAs but people may be
shy and not reporting that they used a tweak ?

... or because the fix is so simple you feel stupid, or because you feel guilty for reinventing the wheel, or you just do not want to admit that you use an ancient MUA.

I use mutt, thunderbird and the android client, I don't know about other
developers but I suspect none uses a MUA that requires a tweak otherwise
it would be fixed.

As Mutt is the latest in the Elm->Pine/Alpine->Mutt lineage, maybe I need
to upgrade to Mutt.

Thanks for looking into it.

Regards - Damian

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