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On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 23:49:13 +0000 "Sébastien Blaisot" <mi...@blaisot.org> wrote: >I agree, we should wait post 1.12 release to discuss this. at >first, i >wanted to wait for 1.12 release before talking about that, but >todays >discussion let me at least disappointed. > >for the windows specific issue, absolutely no build env is needed >because one PR targets the installer, the other one targets the >default >skin. You just need a windows machine to test. or at least discuss >about >the consequences of the change I propose. > I've got a Windows 7 environment, will that do? If so, just tell me what to do and look for. Just do an upgrade over 1.11 with the latest beta? What else? ~RAWRR >but, yes, more windows compiling env would be better ;) > >sb > >Le 22/07/2015 19:47, Be a écrit : >> I agree. I think we should discuss these issues in detail after >1.12 is >> released. For now, let's focus on getting those active PRs >merged and >> the manual. >> >> The long review time for Windows-specific issues is a problem. >For me, >> the issue is how much of a hassle it is to compile on Windows. >I'd be >> happy to borrow a computer with Windows for testing if that >didn't >> require installing a bunch of stuff to compile an unmerged pull >request. >> >> On 07/22/2015 12:27 PM, Sébastien BLAISOT wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I strongly disagree with you. We have a wonderfull new feature >with >>> resizable skins and this new feature is ruined by our windows >installer >>> because if you install 1.12 on top of 1.11, you get the old >skins :( >>> Upgrade is not rare. We already discussed about that, I >proposed a PR >>> which is waiting review since 1+ month. Saying today that this >is not a >>> blocker don't correct the real problem : nobody seems to care >about >>> windows users. This is relatively easy to merge, we must >improve 1.12 >>> quality including this PR. >>> >>> In my opinion, the problems of the mixxx project aren't >marketing or >>> software quality, but two others : >>> >>> - The lack of release management process. We need to know when >are the >>> new functionnality merge windows, when we are in feature >freeze, what >>> and how we should consider blockers, and so on. and we need >someone / a >>> team that dispatch remaining work to achieve release with a >clearly >>> stated date or quality and focus every developpers on >correcting >>> remaining bugs when we are about to release (for example avoid >wasting >>> time talking about coding style during beta cycle). With a >release >>> managemen process, the goal won't shift, or only in a >controlled way. >>> >>> - The lack of decision process. This project is only driven by >strong >>> consensus. When we don't have an overall agreement, nothing is >done. it >>> is normal, in real life, that different people have different >opinions. >>> We need a way to choose between different opinions. Either with >a strong >>> project leader, or with a published process (like voting for >example). >>> This should be published. >>> >>> --- >>> Sébastien Blaisot > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >----------- >_______________________________________________ >Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >http://mixxx.org > > >Mixxx-devel mailing list >Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAlWwhbcACgkQzo/Gj4mkNMzj8gP/bYRLvagdoDdYvtEI9iZdpgplqvP6 9Gb74TOHCBU8rEvVnu/Ibi+ouJLfWMC6RDG+53hQHhnEJhhUp+TELAegqdwhg1flaKvy Wy0MFCMDqd+4bvYaelA7MnQI82nJmrdDqga+JW5E28YnXMnd9WMDtPhsrHkqPrh41Ir2 IzQVxjA= =apqV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today http://mixxx.org Mixxx-devel mailing list Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel
