>From "Steven M. Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 8 Dec 2003:

> > The DVD title is 132 minutes. Using the following settings for mpeg2enc
> 
>       Whew - that's a lot to try and get any quality from and still
>       fit on a CD-R.

Right, thats why I was surprised to see a final mpeg of only 500MB on my first try!

>       Are you using the standard VCD frame size (352x240 or 352x288)?

I am using the dvd::rip 4:3 NTSC preset on the 'Clip & Zoom' tab, which, I guess maps 
to the standard NTSC framesize of 352x240?

> 
> > -K kvcd -q 8 -N 1.0 -b 2000
> 
>       Leave out the -N if  you're using -K kvcd.  The kvcd tables already
>       have the high frequencies "rolled off" (not the right term actually -
>       sampled to less detail might be better) and -N amplifies that effect.

So you are saying that -K kvcd and -N 1.0 actually work against each other. Use one or 
the other?

>       How did you scale the DVD data to the VCD size?  With y4mscaler or
>       some other method?   Depending how the scaling is done can cause
>       increased halo/ghosting.   If you're using y4mscaler 0.5.0 then
>       "-S option=sinc8lan" will probably give the highest quality, if you're
>       using y4mscaler 0.6.1 (which was released this weekend) then that
>       becomes "-S option=sinc:8" (unless I forgot the new syntax already ;)).

Not sure what dvd::rip calls to scale the data. I think it uses some transcode 
switches, which in turn, of course, call mpeg2enc with the appropriate switches.


>       Then specify the correct bitrate to mplex.  When you're creating 
>       nonstandard (XVCD/XSVCD/genericMPEG) formats you have to give mplex
>       a better idea of the maximum bitrate.   Either give an arbitrarily
>       large value (knowing it will never be approached) or add the video
>       rate and audio rate and multiply by 1.03.   "-r 3000" should work
>       fine.  Or take the 2000 you specified to mpeg2enc, add in 224 for
>       the audio and then a couple percent for overhead - 2224*1.03 = ~2300

Right, dvd::rip does all this already. I see -r 2298 in the logfile with the -V (vbr) 
parameter.

>       Depending how big the image ends up being you might try '-K tmpgenc'
>       to use the TMPGEnc tables - the bitrate won't be quite as low as
>       with kvcd but the quality will be better (hopefully).

Is the -N 1.0 not required with -K tmpgenc also?

> > Any magic incantations to mpeg2enc to get the optimal quality at
> lowest filesize? Or is it pretty much trial and error?
> 
>       Yes. 

One thing I dont quite get. I am new to all this video encoding stuff and I see all 
these forums (mjpeg included) where smart guys are fiddling parameters endlessly to 
get what they want.

And then I walk into Best Buy (an electronics superstore here in the US), and see all 
these one-click copy-DVD/VCD/SVCD packages on the shelf which claim to make flawless 
copies of digital (or even analog!) material with just a press of a button! 

Needless to say, all these are Windows-based packages. Are the Win32-based tools so 
much more superior to Linux that they can automatically analyse the source material, 
set all these zillion encoding parameters to their optimum values and produce perfect 
mpeg/avis? I doubt that since from what I have seen most Win32-based tools are either 
Cygwin ports of Linux tools or vice versa.

So what gives?

>       If you're using the cvs version of mpeg2enc you can also try adding
>       "-E -10" to the options - for clean source (such as from a DVD)

Ok, will try -E -10 -q 7

Thanks


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