The stock cams are aligned with marks on the chain sprockets, they face each 
other and flush to the head (at 3 and 9 o'clock) A guy once installed them with 
the marks at 12 o'clock. Luckily the head wasn't mated to the block. 

On Feb 12, 2016, at 6:26 PM, damac2004 <damac2...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

im in california, ugh!  i found out the cams are estas.

this may sound like a dumb question but when i went to time the car with stock 
pulley i found that the front cam is a little off. it looks like if i made sure 
the cam marks lined up its one tooth off.  this car was running like this, i 
don't think any valves were contacting pistons.  im scared to touch it in that 
sense since it had an adjustable cam.

i don't understand how these motors work, should the #1 lobes be pointing 
towards the middle at the same angle?  its hard to tell exactly but it seems if 
i turned the front cam to match the internal marks that the cam lobe might 
match the other cam.  to me right now it looks just a tad off.



> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:12:10 PM UTC-8, Larry Velez wrote:
> What country are you in that you are so worried about passing smog?  In the 
> USA, most of these cars are now exempt.
> 
>  
> 
> -Larry
> 
>  
> 
> From: mk2...@googlegroups.com [mailto:mk2...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> damac2004
> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 9:43 PM
> To: MK2-16v <mk2...@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: mg...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [mk2-16v] how do i find out what engine i have?
> 
>  
> 
> so are people saying native 2.0 heads can fit onto the 1.8 bottom end?
> 
>  
> 
> is there any kind of clues on castings on the outside i can look for to see 
> what i have, and does anybody know if the stock cams 16v are the same part 
> number between 2 and 1.8 liter?
> 
>  
> 
> i just tore into this car more and of course the techtronics chip with 
> adjustable cam gear, and under the valve cover are not vw cams.  i got 
> colored stripes on these parts but all i can find is some kind of emblem.  i 
> emailed them asking where part numbers are just in case its their parts.
> 
>  
> 
> i don't know if this has an effect on smog but i just want to put the car 
> back stock.
> 
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 9:37:13 AM UTC-8, hollandphillips wrote:
> 
> The external differences between 1.8 and 2.0 16V heads and blocks are very 
> minimal. I don't recall the over hang you speak of, but I wouldn't be 
> concerned.
> 
> ~Holland
> 
> On Feb 2, 2016 09:28, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> hmmm, i am still not convinced and found a 1.8 oil pump in it.
> 
>  
> 
> is there a problem with me going with the 2.0 im shaft/gear and its oil pump? 
>  if im reading right it can only help?  then i won't have to worry.
> 
>  
> 
> the more i read im still not seeing how it can be a 2.0 bottom end with the 
> 1.8 intermediate shaft if things don't hit when running the engine.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> is it normal for the head on these motors to stick way out past the front of 
> the block where they meet?  im used to seeing that area flush on mydiesel 
> where mated.
> 
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 6:55:11 AM UTC-8, mgyip wrote:
> 
> Sure sounds like a 2.0l 16v especially because of the 2 knock sensors which 
> were only present on the 91 and later cars - Digifunk for 8v and Moronic for 
> 16v.  I wouldn't necessarily throw TEPO (the evil previous owner) under the 
> bus though - Volkswagen was/is notorious for having a vast spare parts bin 
> that crossed model types and years, throwing together old and new model parts 
> when their supply was thin.  In 91-92, VW quality was, um, not-so-good and 
> their supply was the same.  
> 
>  
> 
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 5:51 PM, Holland Phillips <faster...@pacbell.net> 
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Well, it's definitely a 9A engine. Whatever else is going on with the 
> internals is a mystery. I would just buy all the replacement parts you need 
> for the 9A and be done with it.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2016 14:30, damac2004 <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> 1.  yes there is an ecu and it has a techtronics chip in it that says 16v 2.0
> 
>  
> 
> 2.  i think it does have 2 knock sensors on the front of the block to the 
> left of the block breather fitting?  each one looks the same, one has a bare 
> wire the whole length, and each goes to its own wire harness clip.
> 
>  
> 
> 3.  this car is disabled on the driveway and im struggling to get it higher 
> for me to get underneath.  i was trying to feel around back there from 
> underneath looking up and all i can find on the drivers side lower block is a 
> big embossed A
> 
>  
> 
> i'm new to these cars so im scared its some kind of other engine.  this still 
> doesn't explain how this car was using the larger im shaft and smaller oil 
> pump gear?  there isn't a mark anywhere on those parts so obviously they 
> aren't hitting the guts of the engine.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-8, hollandphillips wrote:
> 
> Does it have a ECU mounted under the plastic tray at the base of the 
> windshield?  The tray covers the windshield wiper motor, and is held on by 
> some clips. If it does, it's probably a 9A. The 1.8 liter 16V doesn't utilize 
> an ECU.
> 
> ~Holland
> 
> On Feb 1, 2016 11:59, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> the chasis is a 1991 gti but i don't trust the previous owners after having 
> seen all the hack jobs.  for all i know another motor is in there :(
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> im trying to look on front of block and see these markings in the picture i 
> attached, down below that is the part number.
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 8:30:48 AM UTC-8, hollandphillips wrote:
> 
> I don't recall you saying what year your car is. If it's a '91-'92 2.0 liter 
> 16V, the engine designation is 9A.
> 
> ~Holland
> 
> On Jan 31, 2016 11:51 PM, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> is there some kind of decoder?  when i search google i come up with few and 
> differing answers.  i want to find out what engine i have so i can make sure 
> i get the right intermediate shaft and stock parts to get it smogged.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> the block says:  051 103 021
> 
>  
> 
> the head says:  051103373
> 
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