My problem with VNC is its performance over a network - at least compared to both NX and RDP. Ramon Casha
On 9 December 2011 10:59, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti <[email protected]>wrote: > I had tried it a while ago. It doesn't do redirection. Just display. > From a licensing point of view, an implementation of an RDP server is a > shady business. > > I would also consider VNC if this is for a commercial offering. > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote: > >> NX is pretty expensive though. Have you tried every xrdp over the >> internet? >> >> Ramon Casha >> >> >> >> On 9 December 2011 10:41, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Then you should go for the real deal aka NoMachine NX. >>> Another possibility is using straight X over ssh if you are working over >>> a lan. The only drawback is disconnections and redirection of sound, files >>> and printing. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ramon Casha >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Well the problem with freenx / neatx is precisely that - they are >>>> unmaintained. I don't want to go for an unmaintained project. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ramon Casha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9 December 2011 10:19, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2X had a terminal server which is based off NoMachine. >>>>> It might be oldish and unmaintained as they dropped the project. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.2x.com/downloads/#termserver >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Ramon Casha <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Damn, I just found the catch with NX... The "free server" available >>>>>> from nomachine is actually a stripped-down version that is limited to 2 >>>>>> sessions, and it seems that FreeNX and NeatX are both dead. Is there a >>>>>> decent, non-restricted, open source terminal server for Linux available? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 December 2011 12:06, Anton Xuereb <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You could use something like nitrogen and then run nitrogen >>>>>>> --restore to restore desktop >>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2011 11:24 AM, "Ramon Casha" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far I like what I did with openbox/fbpanel/idesk. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm using openbox which has a desktop right-click menu that is >>>>>>>> configured via an xml file, so I can provide these users with a preset >>>>>>>> menu >>>>>>>> without f'ing up the normal menu for anybody else. In addition I have >>>>>>>> fbpanel which provides a task bar, launchers and notify area at the >>>>>>>> bottom, >>>>>>>> and idesk which adds launcher icons to the desktop as well as set a >>>>>>>> wallpaper (fbpanel and idesk are also configured via simple xml files). >>>>>>>> Once I've fully configured the user I can turn it into a home-directory >>>>>>>> skeleton for adduser, and set the owner of the config files to root so >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> user can't change anything. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apart from other advantages I have a really super-fast-loading >>>>>>>> desktop. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I'll set up a shell script which checks if the user is a member >>>>>>>> of a particular linux group, and if so always launches this openbox >>>>>>>> session, otherwise launching the regular Gnome / KDE / other desktop, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> set it as the command to launch Gnome/KDE/etc in NX. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One pending question... does anyone know how to make a script >>>>>>>> respond to a change in desktop size? I want to re-run the command that >>>>>>>> sets >>>>>>>> the wallpaper if possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 December 2011 08:56, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had once done something of the sort using fvwm. >>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2011 6:59 AM, "Ramon Casha" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I could give it a try. Do you know if you can customise the >>>>>>>>>> panels / menu / etc. and then lock them down so that the user can't >>>>>>>>>> launch >>>>>>>>>> anything except the provided menu links? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 19:41, Philip Serracino Inglott < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> did you consider LXDE? >>>>>>>>>>> It uses Openbox anyway and is the desktop environment of Lubuntu >>>>>>>>>>> which I've had a good experience with. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Philip >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 15:13, Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, me too. Gnome Shell and Unity are constantly competing for >>>>>>>>>>>> suckiness. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 14:10, Anton Xuereb >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> honestly...i don't know who actually still uses gnome >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3....people at work had nothing but problems with it.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> i changed over to mint 11 and still on gnome 2.3 atm >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 13:52, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raphael is right. It's about dumb / diskless terminals so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's a lot about PXE booting etc which I don't need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I've found what I wanted though - a combination of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> openbox + idesk to handle the desktop icons + fbpanel to provide >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a panel at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bottom. I completely gave up on Gnome. The latest policy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change any settings" means I can't get it to work as I want it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to :( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 13:34, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LTSP is strictly about dumb terminals. Thats not what you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On a sidenote, Jonathan, please fix your email client. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screws up the threading of the mailing list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jonathan Aquilina < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is the Linux Terminal Services Project which I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think is what you would want for your given project :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a signature like this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=18&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_18> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Click >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=18&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_18> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLUG-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >
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