(and it's security) :P On 9 December 2011 11:16, Ramon Casha <[email protected]> wrote:
> My problem with VNC is its performance over a network - at least compared > to both NX and RDP. > Ramon Casha > > > > On 9 December 2011 10:59, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> I had tried it a while ago. It doesn't do redirection. Just display. >> From a licensing point of view, an implementation of an RDP server is a >> shady business. >> >> I would also consider VNC if this is for a commercial offering. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> NX is pretty expensive though. Have you tried every xrdp over the >>> internet? >>> >>> Ramon Casha >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9 December 2011 10:41, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Then you should go for the real deal aka NoMachine NX. >>>> Another possibility is using straight X over ssh if you are working >>>> over a lan. The only drawback is disconnections and redirection of sound, >>>> files and printing. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ramon Casha >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well the problem with freenx / neatx is precisely that - they are >>>>> unmaintained. I don't want to go for an unmaintained project. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9 December 2011 10:19, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2X had a terminal server which is based off NoMachine. >>>>>> It might be oldish and unmaintained as they dropped the project. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.2x.com/downloads/#termserver >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Damn, I just found the catch with NX... The "free server" available >>>>>>> from nomachine is actually a stripped-down version that is limited to 2 >>>>>>> sessions, and it seems that FreeNX and NeatX are both dead. Is there a >>>>>>> decent, non-restricted, open source terminal server for Linux available? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 December 2011 12:06, Anton Xuereb <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You could use something like nitrogen and then run nitrogen >>>>>>>> --restore to restore desktop >>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2011 11:24 AM, "Ramon Casha" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So far I like what I did with openbox/fbpanel/idesk. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm using openbox which has a desktop right-click menu that is >>>>>>>>> configured via an xml file, so I can provide these users with a >>>>>>>>> preset menu >>>>>>>>> without f'ing up the normal menu for anybody else. In addition I have >>>>>>>>> fbpanel which provides a task bar, launchers and notify area at the >>>>>>>>> bottom, >>>>>>>>> and idesk which adds launcher icons to the desktop as well as set a >>>>>>>>> wallpaper (fbpanel and idesk are also configured via simple xml >>>>>>>>> files). >>>>>>>>> Once I've fully configured the user I can turn it into a >>>>>>>>> home-directory >>>>>>>>> skeleton for adduser, and set the owner of the config files to root >>>>>>>>> so the >>>>>>>>> user can't change anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apart from other advantages I have a really super-fast-loading >>>>>>>>> desktop. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I'll set up a shell script which checks if the user is a >>>>>>>>> member of a particular linux group, and if so always launches this >>>>>>>>> openbox >>>>>>>>> session, otherwise launching the regular Gnome / KDE / other desktop, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> set it as the command to launch Gnome/KDE/etc in NX. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One pending question... does anyone know how to make a script >>>>>>>>> respond to a change in desktop size? I want to re-run the command >>>>>>>>> that sets >>>>>>>>> the wallpaper if possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8 December 2011 08:56, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had once done something of the sort using fvwm. >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2011 6:59 AM, "Ramon Casha" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I could give it a try. Do you know if you can customise the >>>>>>>>>>> panels / menu / etc. and then lock them down so that the user can't >>>>>>>>>>> launch >>>>>>>>>>> anything except the provided menu links? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 19:41, Philip Serracino Inglott < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> did you consider LXDE? >>>>>>>>>>>> It uses Openbox anyway and is the desktop environment of >>>>>>>>>>>> Lubuntu which I've had a good experience with. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Philip >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 15:13, Ramon Casha <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, me too. Gnome Shell and Unity are constantly competing >>>>>>>>>>>>> for suckiness. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 14:10, Anton Xuereb >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> honestly...i don't know who actually still uses gnome >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3....people at work had nothing but problems with it.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i changed over to mint 11 and still on gnome 2.3 atm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 13:52, Ramon Casha <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raphael is right. It's about dumb / diskless terminals so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's a lot about PXE booting etc which I don't need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I've found what I wanted though - a combination of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openbox + idesk to handle the desktop icons + fbpanel to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a panel at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bottom. I completely gave up on Gnome. The latest policy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change any settings" means I can't get it to work as I want it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to :( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramon Casha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 December 2011 13:34, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LTSP is strictly about dumb terminals. Thats not what you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always need. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On a sidenote, Jonathan, please fix your email client. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screws up the threading of the mailing list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jonathan Aquilina < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is the Linux Terminal Services Project which I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think is what you would want for your given project :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Get a signature like this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=18&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_18> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Click >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.<http://r1.wisestamp.com/r/landing?promo=18&dest=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisestamp.com%2Femail-install%3Futm_source%3Dextension%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Dpromo_18> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MLUG-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLUG-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLUG-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://linux.org.mt/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >
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