Gunthar,

Previous to reading your post I thought I was the least qualified to
comment on the conference . . .

Personally, a tightly focused Apache::mod_perl::conference might actually
get me to move away from a keyboard.

PS: I don't want to be a programming whore, and if I did I wouldn't attend
a mod_perl conference.  There are plenty of conferences for that.  I'd
rather eat PB&J and develop open source while drawing unemployment, than to
perfect my whoredom.

IM(Inconsequential)HO,

Jeff




CN=Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 03/31/2000 10:30:02 AM

Sent by:  Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Sent From the mail file of:   Jeff Bulley


To:   Cliff Rayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject:  Re: [RFC] holding a mod_perl conference


You aren't necessarily the only point of view. At some points (especially
with mod_perl), Apache tracks become interesting to attend. However, more
often my particular job entails me being a programming whore, and so I am
equally interested in Java, Perl, and Microsoft COM/DCOM/ASP technologies
*especially* anything that lets them talk to one another.

eg a few weeks ago I whipped up a Java SOAP (XML-RPC pseudo-standard)
server to act as a hub to allow Microsoft and Java and Perl SOAP clients
to talk to it for a project that require this cross platform integration.
The project was quite simple actually, SOAP is relatively well laid out
(for simple spec, for complex spec it's still up in the air). I ended up
doing it myself since the developmentor folk's java SOAP server is still
quite buggy as it attempts to implement everything (and difficult to debug
something that isnt open source).

I guess that's getting off topic, but I frequently find myself having to
pull cross platform knowledge out of a hat if I want to use Perl or Java
in a Microsoft envrionment or hooking into a mMicrosoft specific product
that a company previously purchased or invested development time in.

I am interested in Python and PHP but on an architectual level.

Later,
  Gunther

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Cliff Rayman wrote:

> if you bring in all sorts of other technologies,
> how is this different than being part of apacheCon
> or Perl Conference?
>
> at least when I go to those (if i have time), almost
> everything else at the conference has some interest for
> me.  i have only a modicum of interest in python, cold fusion
> and the like.
>
> either make a mod_perl ONLY conference or stay attached to ApacheCon
> or the Perl Conference.
>
> cliff rayman
> genwax.com
>
> "J. Horner" wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
> >
> > > First of all, why holding yet another conference, the answer is
> > > simple, we want mod_perl to be in the center of the event and not a
> > > side project. Think about Perl Conference -- mod_perl is just a
little
> > > part of the Apache track. Think about ApacheCon -- mod_perl is again
> > > just a drop in a ocean.
> > >
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > The rest are full tracks dedicated for each technology, so if I want
> > > to learn mod_perl I'd spend all the days listening to mod_perl
> > > speakers so when the conference is over I'll go back with a bag full
> > > of tricks and a very good push to get me going when I'll start coding
> > > myself. Having a dedicated track will allow to provide all the
> > > information that generally being skipped due to the lack of time.
> > >
> >
> > I like the idea of mod_perl being the center of attention.  There are
> > aspects of mod_perl in which I am very weak.  I'm wondering if this
will
> > fit the bill, though.
> >
> > In this scenario, we will have a conference with only partial interest
in
> > mod_perl.  With all of these other technologies, we will be able to
bring
> > in funding and support from some big names (possibly Sun, Allaire,
etc),
> > but we still only have a small piece of the pie.  We will have, in
effect,
> > a cluster of conferences.  Also, we will need space for each and every
> > faction attending (a mod_perl conference room, a Cold Fusion conference
> > room, a Java area, etc).
> >
> > Is this feasible?  Will this solve the problem?  I don't imagine a
large
> > amount of cooperation from competing vendors.
> >
> > Rebuttal?
> >
> > J. J. Horner
> > Linux, Apache, Perl, Unix, Stronghold
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.knoxlug.org
> > System has been up: 8 days.
>
>






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