It amazes me that this entire thread neglects to mention PHP. Granted,
it started with a discussion about web frameworks, for which PHP does
not have a strong footing, unless of course you count Drupal and
Wordpress and the like among such "frameworks." But still, PHP cannot
and should not be ignored.
In my experience in working on Movable Type, PHP is the single biggest
source of competition on the market because it has the lowest barrier
to entry and has the largest mind share. Say what you will about PHP
developers, but they are a dime a dozen these days and they are about
as ubiquitous as HTML/CSS developers.
We were frequently confronted with this question/challenge by MT
customers: "we can't find *affordable* Perl developers to help us," or
worse, "we already have 10 people on staff who know PHP." What it
boils down to for most companies is "can I develop this thing with the
staff I have, or do I have to open up job reqs to get the talent I
need?" or put simple, "how much is this going to cost me?"
Put into these terms, PHP always looks cheaper on paper because
chances are there are people on staff who already know PHP, or the
cost of hiring a good Perl programmer is too high.
Byrne
On Mar 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Lupe Christoph wrote:
On Monday, 2009-03-23 at 11:55:46 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Octavian Râsnita <orasn...@gmail.com
> wrote:
This is true. Less and less programmers use perl, and in most
parts of the
world it is hard to find competent perl programmers.
Unless you have some evidence of this, stop spreading FUD. The job
listings for Perl are strong. They're huge compared to those for
Ruby. Of course Java is massively more popular than either of them,
but that doesn't make the perl market small.
Figures from the German freelancer market, Gulp (www.gulp.de):
CVs (called profiles, a total of 60823 are available) with:
Perl 5470
Ruby 234
Java 11261
About two Java programmers perl Perl programmer. About 23 Perl
programmers per Ruby programmer. (Germans are known to be
conservative...)
Projects (total 1317) mentioning
Perl 54
Ruby 4
Java 153
The programmer-to-project ratios are:
Perl 101
Ruby 58
Java 73
So, yes, Perl is a bad choice. It is the language with the most
competition. Go for Ruby! There may be only four projetcs, but you
have
less competition to fear! :-)
Lupe Christoph
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