Byrne Reese wrote:
The problem is that there are no very many big sites that use perl either. I knew that Amazon used Perl, than tried to use Java, than... I don't know what they use now. Google uses Python, Yahoo uses PHP, Microsoft probably uses DotNet and Sun probably uses Java.

I will add:

* LiveJournal
* TypePad
* Vox
* Popular MT sites like:
  - Huffington Post
  - Gothamist
  - Talking Points Memo
  - many, many, many more of course

As far as I know, these sites also use Perl or mod_perl:

o Internet Movie Database (Amazon)
o TicketMaster (last I checked, but that was a couple of years ago and they were recently sold or bought or something)
o CitySearch.com
o ArtToday.com
o PBS Online

I also know that a very large international cosmetics company uses mod_perl quite extensively. I've done some work for them and I don't know if or how they would care for their name being mentioned here, so I won't, but... If you want "large" -- they define "large."

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I wouldn't "count" a company that uses a Perl "product" or CMS or some sort (such as MT) as a "perl site" in the strict sense of the word. Some of the techies at places like Huffington Post may be aware of the underlying technology, but I doubt very much that "Perl" itself drove the decision as much as the great work that Ben and Mena Trott did at SixApart.com in creating such a product.

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And I have to chime in and say I've seen plenty of ugly, ridiculous code written in every language imaginable (everyone's precious "Java" and JEE very much included.) It's not a product of the language as much as the language bearer. Sorry. That's always been the case. Margin for error on a tight mountain road doesn't automatically a bad driver make -- only the one who will not heed the type of road and car he's in in the situation. Anyone can zoom through an intersection full of traffic on a wide-open, flat country road as well. The road being the intent and direction and the car being Perl (and pretty cotton-pickin' good one, I might add), I don't see the correlation here. Again, this is clever smoke and mirrors by consultants with a different agenda and product to sell. The craft of programming and development are only slightly impacted by these kinds of things.

-pj

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